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Bug#923675: debian-installer: consider using haveged to gather entropy

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Hi Cyril,

On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 11:28:23PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> > does that also mean that haveged get's installed on the final system if
> > it's deemed to be useful in d-i or is that still missing?
> There's nothing in what I have written (on this bug report or in the
> code I've quoted or pointed to) that references /target, no.

this was my understanding as well, though I wasn't sure (havent reviewed
the code), thats why I asked, so thanks for pointing this out! (and for
the other feedback as well!)

> TBF I have no idea whether we should do that; the situation is slightly
> different as a non-installer/non-live system can carry over entropy from
> one boot to the next one, which d-i can't do.

right.

> I've focussed on getting entropy issues within d-i fixed, which seemed
> urgently needed. I'm fine with people seeking a consensus through
> debian-boot@ (and maybe debian-devel@) regarding what should happen in
> the installed system.

ok, cool.

though I don't think I have time/energy to drive this discussion right
now :/

> (I almost mentioned the fix would be trivial as it's about pulling an
> extra package, but since we have no rng support in udebs at the moment,
> we would have no rng support in d-i thus haveged running, while the
> installed system could have rng support… Anyway: deciding what to do is
> the important part; implementation should be much more straightforward
> than the haveged udeb addition dance I've just orchestrated.)

heh. what was the reason haveged was choosen and not jitterentropy-rngd
which was also suggested here?


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Bug#923675: Add related bug #916690 info Daniel Lange <DLange@debian.org> - 2019-04-16 09:40 +0200
  Bug#923675: Add related bug #916690 info Petter Reinholdtsen <pere@hungry.com> - 2019-04-16 12:30 +0200
    Bug#923675: Add related bug #916690 info Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2019-04-16 13:10 +0200
      Bug#923675: Add related bug #916690 info Petter Reinholdtsen <pere@hungry.com> - 2019-04-16 14:10 +0200
        Bug#923675: Add related bug #916690 info Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2019-04-16 21:20 +0200
          Bug#923675: Add related bug #916690 info Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2019-04-16 22:40 +0200
            Bug#923675: debian-installer: consider using haveged to gather entropy Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2019-04-16 23:50 +0200
              Bug#923675: debian-installer: consider using haveged to gather entropy Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2019-04-17 00:30 +0200
              Bug#923675: debian-installer: consider using haveged to gather entropy Jonathan Carter <jonathan@jonathancarter.org> - 2019-04-17 08:30 +0200
              Bug#923675: debian-installer: consider using haveged to gather entropy Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2019-04-17 15:10 +0200
                Bug#923675: debian-installer: consider using haveged to gather entropy Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2019-04-20 02:50 +0200
                Bug#923675: debian-installer: consider using haveged to gather entropy Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2019-04-20 10:50 +0200
                Bug#923675: debian-installer: consider using haveged to gather entropy Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2019-04-20 23:40 +0200
                Bug#923675: debian-installer: consider using haveged to gather entropy Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2019-04-22 17:10 +0200
                Bug#923675: debian-installer: consider using haveged to gather entropy Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2019-04-22 19:40 +0200
          Bug#923675: Add related bug #916690 info Petter Reinholdtsen <pere@hungry.com> - 2019-04-16 23:50 +0200
  Bug#923675: Add related bug #916690 info Thorsten Glaser <tg@mirbsd.de> - 2019-04-16 15:40 +0200

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