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Bug#923675: debian-installer: consider using haveged to gather entropy

From Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.bugs.dist, linux.debian.maint.boot
Subject Bug#923675: debian-installer: consider using haveged to gather entropy
Date 2019-04-20 23:40 +0200
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Hi Holger,

Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> (2019-04-20):
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 02:39:49AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> > I've tweaked it a little so that we log whether haveged is available,
> > and whether it should be started, in case we need to investigate:
> >   https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/rootskel/blob/master/src/lib/debian-installer-startup.d/S50entropy-source
> 
> nice work!
> 
> does that also mean that haveged get's installed on the final system if
> it's deemed to be useful in d-i or is that still missing?

There's nothing in what I have written (on this bug report or in the
code I've quoted or pointed to) that references /target, no.


TBF I have no idea whether we should do that; the situation is slightly
different as a non-installer/non-live system can carry over entropy from
one boot to the next one, which d-i can't do.

I've focussed on getting entropy issues within d-i fixed, which seemed
urgently needed. I'm fine with people seeking a consensus through
debian-boot@ (and maybe debian-devel@) regarding what should happen in
the installed system.

(I almost mentioned the fix would be trivial as it's about pulling an
extra package, but since we have no rng support in udebs at the moment,
we would have no rng support in d-i thus haveged running, while the
installed system could have rng support… Anyway: deciding what to do is
the important part; implementation should be much more straightforward
than the haveged udeb addition dance I've just orchestrated.)


Cheers,
-- 
Cyril Brulebois (kibi@debian.org)            <https://debamax.com/>
D-I release manager -- Release team member -- Freelance Consultant

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Bug#923675: Add related bug #916690 info Daniel Lange <DLange@debian.org> - 2019-04-16 09:40 +0200
  Bug#923675: Add related bug #916690 info Petter Reinholdtsen <pere@hungry.com> - 2019-04-16 12:30 +0200
    Bug#923675: Add related bug #916690 info Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2019-04-16 13:10 +0200
      Bug#923675: Add related bug #916690 info Petter Reinholdtsen <pere@hungry.com> - 2019-04-16 14:10 +0200
        Bug#923675: Add related bug #916690 info Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2019-04-16 21:20 +0200
          Bug#923675: Add related bug #916690 info Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2019-04-16 22:40 +0200
            Bug#923675: debian-installer: consider using haveged to gather entropy Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2019-04-16 23:50 +0200
              Bug#923675: debian-installer: consider using haveged to gather entropy Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> - 2019-04-17 00:30 +0200
              Bug#923675: debian-installer: consider using haveged to gather entropy Jonathan Carter <jonathan@jonathancarter.org> - 2019-04-17 08:30 +0200
              Bug#923675: debian-installer: consider using haveged to gather entropy Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2019-04-17 15:10 +0200
                Bug#923675: debian-installer: consider using haveged to gather entropy Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2019-04-20 02:50 +0200
                Bug#923675: debian-installer: consider using haveged to gather entropy Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2019-04-20 10:50 +0200
                Bug#923675: debian-installer: consider using haveged to gather entropy Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2019-04-20 23:40 +0200
                Bug#923675: debian-installer: consider using haveged to gather entropy Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2019-04-22 17:10 +0200
                Bug#923675: debian-installer: consider using haveged to gather entropy Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2019-04-22 19:40 +0200
          Bug#923675: Add related bug #916690 info Petter Reinholdtsen <pere@hungry.com> - 2019-04-16 23:50 +0200
  Bug#923675: Add related bug #916690 info Thorsten Glaser <tg@mirbsd.de> - 2019-04-16 15:40 +0200

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