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Re: What time is it, really?

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On Fri 10 Aug 2018 at 09:20:42 -0700, Fred wrote:

> On 08/10/2018 08:18 AM, David Wright wrote:
> > On Thu 09 Aug 2018 at 14:26:30 (-0700), Fred wrote:
> > > On 08/09/2018 12:42 PM, Brian wrote:
> > > > On Thu 09 Aug 2018 at 20:39:16 +0200, john doe wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On 8/9/2018 5:00 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 10:49:52AM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thu, 2018-08-09 at 10:35 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > > > > > > Whoever suggested that is using outdated information.  Install ntp
> > > > > > > Why not openntpd?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > https://packages.debian.org/stretch/openntpd
> > > > > > Sure, whatever you prefer.  There are at least 4 viable alternatives:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ntp
> > > > > > chrony
> > > > > > openntpd
> > > > > > systemd-timesyncd
> > > > > > 
> > > > > Systemd-timesyncd is only a client and using sntp.
> > > > > 
> > > > > https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-timesyncd.service.html
> > > > Ideal for what the OP wants. Either that or chrony, if he would only
> > > > make his mind up.
> > > > 
> > > Well, what makes you think I haven't made my mind up?
> > (I wasn't the one seeming impatient, but) I was going to enquire at
> > some time about how you got along with chrony (which you wrote you'd
> > try next).
> > 
> > The discussion you referred to might have been the one in June last
> > year when I wrote that chrony did not do a lot for me. I installed
> > it naively, ie I didn't poke it with chronyc, and the system remained
> > five seconds slow. OTOH ntp corrected it immediately and stays
> > precisely correct all the time. (jessie at the time.)
> > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/06/msg00450.html
> > In a follow-up, Brian had more success with chrony.
> > 
> > > Several years ago I built a "network clock" that receives WWVB time
> > > signals, has a clock display and an Ethernet interface so computers
> > > on the local network can ask for the time.  The hardware works and
> > > the software is able to decode the WWVB time code.  I am interested
> > > in finishing it now.  The computers on the network can use a Perl
> > > program to get the time.
> > Interesting. I played around with a Wireless World design in the
> > early 70's (TTL) where the "Rugby" time code (the slow one) was
> > decoded in hardware.
> > 
> > Currently we have a consumer radio clock which is a source of mystery
> > to me twice a year: the DST change occurs in the early evening on
> > Saturday instead of Sunday morning. In fact, it's about the time
> > that a UK clock would be changing if they moved on the same weekend
> > (which they typically don't). What does your home-built clock
> > reveal about the WWVB codes (assuming our clock is receiving the
> > same signal in KS)?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > David.
> > 
> > 
> Hi David,
> I haven't tried chrony as I have renewed interest in completing the "network

Five minutes work. As opposed to ....

> clock" project I started some time ago.  There are far more interesting
> "home projects" than you can shake a stick at.  I ran ntpdate once as root
> and it did correct the time.

The vast majority of users would be content with systemd-timesyncd or
chrony. Both simple, easy and reliable enough to forget about any
time-keeping problems. But each to his own.

-- 
Brian.

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What time is it, really? Fred <fred@blakemfg.com> - 2018-08-09 16:40 +0200
  Re: What time is it, really? Martin <keine-eile@online.de> - 2018-08-09 16:40 +0200
  Re: What time is it, really? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-08-09 16:40 +0200
    Re: What time is it, really? Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> - 2018-08-09 17:00 +0200
      Re: What time is it, really? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-08-09 17:10 +0200
        Re: What time is it, really? Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> - 2018-08-09 17:10 +0200
        Re: What time is it, really? john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2018-08-09 20:40 +0200
          Re: What time is it, really? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-08-09 21:50 +0200
            Re: What time is it, really? Fred <fred@blakemfg.com> - 2018-08-09 23:40 +0200
              Re: What time is it, really? Shea Alterio <krusete@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 00:00 +0200
              Re: What time is it, really? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-10 17:20 +0200
                Re: What time is it, really? Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-10 17:40 +0200
                Re: What time is it, really? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-10 21:50 +0200
                Re: What time is it, really? Fred <fred@blakemfg.com> - 2018-08-10 18:40 +0200
                Re: What time is it, really? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-08-10 19:50 +0200
                Re: What time is it, really? Fekete Tamás <fektom@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 19:50 +0200
                Re: What time is it, really? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-08-10 20:10 +0200
                Re: What time is it, really? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-10 20:20 +0200
                Re: What time is it, really? Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-10 23:00 +0200
                Re: What time is it, really? Fekete Tamás <fektom@gmail.com> - 2018-08-11 11:10 +0200
                Re: What time is it, really? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-10 22:40 +0200
    Re: What time is it, really? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-09 17:10 +0200
    Re: What time is it, really? Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2018-08-09 17:20 +0200
      Re: What time is it, really? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-08-09 18:00 +0200
        Re: What time is it, really? Andre Majorel <aym-naibed@teaser.fr> - 2018-08-09 19:10 +0200
        Re: What time is it, really? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-08-09 19:20 +0200
        Re: What time is it, really? Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-09 20:00 +0200
    Re: What time is it, really? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 01:30 +0200
  Re: What time is it, really? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-08-09 16:50 +0200
    OT: What time is it, really? Martin <keine-eile@online.de> - 2018-08-09 17:10 +0200
      Re: OT: What time is it, really? Martin <keine-eile@online.de> - 2018-08-09 17:20 +0200
        Re: OT: What time is it, really? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-08-09 17:50 +0200
          Re: OT: What time is it, really? Martin <keine-eile@online.de> - 2018-08-09 18:10 +0200
        Re: OT: What time is it, really? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-09 18:20 +0200
          Re: OT: What time is it, really? Martin <keine-eile@online.de> - 2018-08-09 18:30 +0200
            Re: OT: What time is it, really? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-09 19:40 +0200
              Re: OT: What time is it, really? Anders Andersson <pipatron@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 12:00 +0200
                Re: OT: What time is it, really? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-10 13:50 +0200
      Re: OT: What time is it, really? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-08-09 17:20 +0200
    Re: What time is it, really? Fred <fred@blakemfg.com> - 2018-08-09 18:50 +0200
      Re: What time is it, really? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-08-09 19:00 +0200
      Re: What time is it, really? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-08-09 19:00 +0200
      Re: What time is it, really? Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-09 20:00 +0200
  Re: What time is it, really? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-09 16:50 +0200

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