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Re: What time is it, really?

From Fred <fred@blakemfg.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: What time is it, really?
Date 2018-08-09 18:50 +0200
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On 08/09/2018 07:42 AM, Nicolas George wrote:
> Fred (2018-08-09):
>> Someone complained off list about the timestamp in my emails being off.
>> Being a hardware person I think hardware should work properly and clocks
>> should keep accurate time.  So I installed ntpdate as suggested but it is
>> not active yet.
> Nowadays, unless you have religions objections, you should just enable
> systemd-timesyncd, it is the most lightweight and transparent way of
> enabling network time synchronization with nowadays Debian.
>
> ntpdate is not really good because it only does punctual queries; ntpd
> and timesyncd will keep stats and adjust more accurately.
>
>> If I ask google what time it is in Mesa AZ. the response agrees closely with
>> an "atomic" clock I have.  The computer clock is about 10 min. fast.
>>
>> fred@ragnok:~$ /usr/sbin/ntpdate -q time.nist.gov
>> server 2610:20:6f96:96::4, stratum 1, offset -610.512368, delay 0.09421
>> server 132.163.96.4, stratum 1, offset -610.509394, delay 0.08899
>>   9 Aug 06:51:15 ntpdate[13672]: step time server 132.163.96.4
>    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> offset -610.509394 sec
>>
>> fred@ragnok:~$ date
>> Thu Aug  9 06:51:18 MST 2018
>>
>> The time server is quite close to the computer clock.
> If you are looking at the time I underlined above, I am pretty sure
> (looking at the source) that it is the local time, not the time returned
> by the server.
>
> Regards,
>
Hi,
I think you may be right.  It seems a stupid response from ntpdate since 
I asked the time from the server.  So, ntpdate maybe isn't what I should 
be using.

There was a discussion about time services on this list some time ago 
and at that time I decided chrony should be used so I will try it next.  
I don't want a service that keeps banging on the server.  Once a day 
seems reasonable to me.  Can chrony be configured to check in once a 
day.  I don't expect the time to be more accurate than 30 seconds.  The 
computer does run 24/7 so the drift is in the software.

Best regards,
Fred

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What time is it, really? Fred <fred@blakemfg.com> - 2018-08-09 16:40 +0200
  Re: What time is it, really? Martin <keine-eile@online.de> - 2018-08-09 16:40 +0200
  Re: What time is it, really? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-08-09 16:40 +0200
    Re: What time is it, really? Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> - 2018-08-09 17:00 +0200
      Re: What time is it, really? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-08-09 17:10 +0200
        Re: What time is it, really? Jim Popovitch <jim@k4vqc.com> - 2018-08-09 17:10 +0200
        Re: What time is it, really? john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2018-08-09 20:40 +0200
          Re: What time is it, really? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-08-09 21:50 +0200
            Re: What time is it, really? Fred <fred@blakemfg.com> - 2018-08-09 23:40 +0200
              Re: What time is it, really? Shea Alterio <krusete@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 00:00 +0200
              Re: What time is it, really? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-10 17:20 +0200
                Re: What time is it, really? Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-10 17:40 +0200
                Re: What time is it, really? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-10 21:50 +0200
                Re: What time is it, really? Fred <fred@blakemfg.com> - 2018-08-10 18:40 +0200
                Re: What time is it, really? Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-08-10 19:50 +0200
                Re: What time is it, really? Fekete Tamás <fektom@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 19:50 +0200
                Re: What time is it, really? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-08-10 20:10 +0200
                Re: What time is it, really? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-10 20:20 +0200
                Re: What time is it, really? Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-10 23:00 +0200
                Re: What time is it, really? Fekete Tamás <fektom@gmail.com> - 2018-08-11 11:10 +0200
                Re: What time is it, really? David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-08-10 22:40 +0200
    Re: What time is it, really? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-09 17:10 +0200
    Re: What time is it, really? Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2018-08-09 17:20 +0200
      Re: What time is it, really? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-08-09 18:00 +0200
        Re: What time is it, really? Andre Majorel <aym-naibed@teaser.fr> - 2018-08-09 19:10 +0200
        Re: What time is it, really? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-08-09 19:20 +0200
        Re: What time is it, really? Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-09 20:00 +0200
    Re: What time is it, really? deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 01:30 +0200
  Re: What time is it, really? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-08-09 16:50 +0200
    OT: What time is it, really? Martin <keine-eile@online.de> - 2018-08-09 17:10 +0200
      Re: OT: What time is it, really? Martin <keine-eile@online.de> - 2018-08-09 17:20 +0200
        Re: OT: What time is it, really? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-08-09 17:50 +0200
          Re: OT: What time is it, really? Martin <keine-eile@online.de> - 2018-08-09 18:10 +0200
        Re: OT: What time is it, really? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-09 18:20 +0200
          Re: OT: What time is it, really? Martin <keine-eile@online.de> - 2018-08-09 18:30 +0200
            Re: OT: What time is it, really? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-09 19:40 +0200
              Re: OT: What time is it, really? Anders Andersson <pipatron@gmail.com> - 2018-08-10 12:00 +0200
                Re: OT: What time is it, really? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-10 13:50 +0200
      Re: OT: What time is it, really? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-08-09 17:20 +0200
    Re: What time is it, really? Fred <fred@blakemfg.com> - 2018-08-09 18:50 +0200
      Re: What time is it, really? Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-08-09 19:00 +0200
      Re: What time is it, really? Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-08-09 19:00 +0200
      Re: What time is it, really? Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-08-09 20:00 +0200
  Re: What time is it, really? Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-08-09 16:50 +0200

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