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Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32

From Curt <curty@free.fr>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32
Date 2018-08-11 19:10 +0200
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On 2018-08-11, Pétùr <peturvilj@gmail.com> wrote:
> Le 11/08/2018 à 16:03, Curt a écrit :
>> There was a lengthy discussion, but within it I don't remember anyone
>> detailing the numerous reasons (or any reason at all) executing plain
>> 'su' is a "really bad idea," (where I'm reading "really bad idea" to
>> mean having unintended and very detrimental consequences to the
>> hapless user).
>
> Sorry I missed the discussion (it was during my vacation). I read it
> quickly and, indeed, there is no proper explanation why old "su" is
> dangerous to use or a bad idea.
>
>

No one said the old su was dangerous or a bad idea. The new su came about
because "all other distributions are using the implementations from
util-linux."

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=833256

What was said here (in the NEWS or NOTES or some official document
quoted in this thread) was that executing "su" without any arguments
rather than "su -" was a very bad idea (so that those bitten by the fact
the new, improved su doesn't reset the PATH are kind of getting what
they deserve anyway for being ignorant).

-- 
"She was a blank wall, fresh painted." 
Louise Erdrich, Love Medicine

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New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 Pétùr <peturvilj@gmail.com> - 2018-08-11 11:50 +0200
  Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 Stefan Krusche <linux@stefan-krusche.de> - 2018-08-11 12:00 +0200
    Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-08-11 16:10 +0200
      Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 Samuel Henrique <samueloph@debian.org> - 2018-08-11 17:50 +0200
      Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 Pétùr <peturvilj@gmail.com> - 2018-08-11 18:00 +0200
        Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-08-11 19:10 +0200
  Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-08-11 13:50 +0200
    Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 Pétùr <peturvilj@gmail.com> - 2018-08-11 18:00 +0200
  Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-08-13 14:50 +0200
    Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2018-08-13 15:10 +0200
      Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> - 2018-08-13 15:40 +0200
  Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2018-08-14 11:00 +0200

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