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| From | Curt <curty@free.fr> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | linux.debian.user |
| Subject | Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 |
| Date | 2018-08-11 16:10 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <wlCKC-5YT-3@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink) |
| References | <wlyH0-3qG-9@gated-at.bofh.it> <wlyQG-3tJ-9@gated-at.bofh.it> |
| Organization | Unorganized |
On 2018-08-11, Stefan Krusche <linux@stefan-krusche.de> wrote: >> >> The first difference is probably the most user visible one. Doing >> plain 'su' is a really bad idea for many reasons, so using 'su -' is >> strongly recommended to always get a newly set up environment similar >> to a normal login. If you want to restore behaviour more similar to >> the previous one you can add 'ALWAYS_SET_PATH yes' in /etc/login.defs. >> --- >> >> The new 'su' is useless for me because it cannot launch root program. >> I did the modification in /etc/login.defs and restore the previous >> behavior. However I am concern with the statement " Doing plain 'su' >> is a really bad idea for many reasons". >> >> Could someone explain to me why this is a bad behavior? >> >> Pétùr > > Hello Pétùr, > > only recently until a couple days ago there was a lengthy discussion about just > that. Have you missed that? Have a look in the archives for a subject line like > this: "use of su vs sudo" ... There was a lengthy discussion, but within it I don't remember anyone detailing the numerous reasons (or any reason at all) executing plain 'su' is a "really bad idea," (where I'm reading "really bad idea" to mean having unintended and very detrimental consequences to the hapless user). > Kind regards, > Stefan > > -- "She was a blank wall, fresh painted." Louise Erdrich, Love Medicine
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New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 Pétùr <peturvilj@gmail.com> - 2018-08-11 11:50 +0200
Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 Stefan Krusche <linux@stefan-krusche.de> - 2018-08-11 12:00 +0200
Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-08-11 16:10 +0200
Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 Samuel Henrique <samueloph@debian.org> - 2018-08-11 17:50 +0200
Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 Pétùr <peturvilj@gmail.com> - 2018-08-11 18:00 +0200
Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-08-11 19:10 +0200
Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 Nicolas George <george@nsup.org> - 2018-08-11 13:50 +0200
Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 Pétùr <peturvilj@gmail.com> - 2018-08-11 18:00 +0200
Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-08-13 14:50 +0200
Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2018-08-13 15:10 +0200
Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> - 2018-08-13 15:40 +0200
Re: New su behavior in util-linux 2.32 Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.net> - 2018-08-14 11:00 +0200
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