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Re: fucking firefox

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From GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Subject Re: fucking firefox
Date 2015-04-01 16:42 -0600
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Ezekiel wrote:

> 
> "GreyCloud" <mist@cumulus.com> wrote in message
> news:DOidndryWOJLqIHInZ2dnUU7-V2dnZ2d@bresnan.com...
>> Ezekiel wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "vallor" <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote in message
>>> news:551c0a19$0$44764$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com...
>>>> On 03/31/2015 08:35 AM, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>> "Peter K?hlmann" <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote in message
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's well known that wealthier people are smarter than the
>>>>>>> less-wealthy,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope. Thats bullshit.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's actually a fact. Here's an article from today's Wall Street
>>>>> Journal. Read the last couple of paragraphs from Dr. Noble at Columbia
>>>>> University. (Columbia is one of the top Universities in the world).
>>>>> The neuroscience research on poverty and brain development explains
>>>>> the reason.
>>>>>
>>>>> <quote>
>>>>> Brains, Wealth (or Its Lack) and Academic Achievement
>>>>> Very few wildly successful individuals are stupid and few stupid
>>>>> people are
>>>>> wildly successful.
>>>>> March 31, 2015
>>>>>
>>>>> New neuroscience research suggests that childhood poverty may shape
>>>>> brain development, potentially explaining differences in subsequent
>>>>> cognitive skills and behavior. We and others have reported compelling
>>>>> links between family income and brain structure and function, in brain
>>>>> regions associated
>>>>> with skills important for academic success. By identifying how income
>>>>> affects early child development, we hope to inform anti-poverty
>>>>> policies
>>>>> that better support children's well-being.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mr. Murray concludes that "blaming inequality of academic outcomes on
>>>>> economic inequality" potentially punishes "children whose strengths do
>>>>> not
>>>>> lie in academics." Yet it is this outlook that may be punitive.
>>>>> Poverty may
>>>>> be the greatest barrier to a child attaining his or her full academic
>>>>> potential.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kimberly G. Noble, M.D., Ph.D.
>>>>> Columbia University
>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.wsj.com/articles/brains-wealth-or-its-lack-and-academic-
>> achievement-letters-to-the-editor-1427734470
>>>>
>>>> A Roger Murdock newspaper's op-ed glad-handing the wealthy?  I've never
>>>> heard of such a thing!
>>>>
>>>> Oh, but "new...research suggests" and "potentially explaining" are
>>>> solid bricks upon which to build a case, so we should certainly pay
>>>> attention...to the peer-reviewed literature, not to an op-ed.  Because
>>>> you can bet that the author's ideas are challenged there.
>>>
>>> Hint for you - this is just ONE example. There are many, many more
>>> studies
>>> that have researched the correlation between intelligence and income.
>>> This
>>> one example was used because it was relevant and just happened to be
>>> published in the past 24 hours.
>>>
>>> The doctor making those statements is a researcher at an Ivy League
>>> University has seen this "research" and this is actually what she
>>> specializes in. Note the "Her research focuses on socioeconomic
>>> disparities in child neurocognitive development" part.
>>>
>>> <quote>
>>> Kimberly Noble, MD, PhD, is an Assistant Professor of Pediatrics, with a
>>> joint interdisciplinary appointment at the Sergievsky Center. Her
>>> research
>>> focuses on socioeconomic disparities in child neurocognitive
>>> development, with an emphasis on reading and language development.
>>> </quote>
>>>
>>> So yes, since this is what she specializes in then she has seen LOTS of
>>> research and may actually know more about the subject than some usenet
>>> moron named "vallor" who offers zero evidence to backup his
>>> unsubstantiated claims.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Having said that, I think every opportunity for good nutrition, good
>>>> nurturing, and good education should be given to those in poverty.  But
>>>> people in that situation?  They grow up with a different set of smarts.
>>>
>>> I have no problem with helping those in poverty. But that's not the
>>> issue here. The issue here is the original premise of "It's well known
>>> that wealthier people are smarter than the less-wealthy,"
>>>
>>> The fact that smarter people earn more than stupid people has also been
>>> confirmed by another Ivy League University. Here's what Cornell
>>> University
>>> has to say about this in a paper that appeared in American Psychologist.
>>> Pay attention to the "well documented" part.
>>>
>>> <quote>
>>> Schooling, Intelligence, and Income
>>> Stephen J. Ceci and Wendy M. Williams
>>> Cornell University
>>> (October 1997 ? American Psychologist)
>>>
>>> Contrasting the Roles of Schooling and IQ in Economic Outcomes
>>>
>>> ***It is well documented that IQ influences earnings*** and that
>>> schooling
>>> also influences earnings. But are these two effects independent?
>>> Consider an empirical example of IQ's effect on schooling and
>>> schooling's effect on
>>> IQ. How does the relationship between schooling and IQ inform the
>>> analysis
>>> of why some people earn more than others?
>>>
>>> ...because workers who score higher on IQ tests get more valued
>>> positions and get promoted in them faster than their lower IQ peers.
>>> None of the seven types of evidence we reviewed disconfirm this
>>> hypothesis (i.e., that
>>> IQ influences job performance and advancement).
>>>
>>> Consider the data on IQ, schooling, and earnings represented in Figure
>>> 1. As can be seen in Figure 1, even among those with comparable levels
>>> of schooling, the higher a person's level of intellectual ability, the
>>> higher
>>> will be that person's weekly earnings. As shown in this figure, there is
>>> a
>>> linear trend for a rise in earnings to be associated with increasing
>>> cognitive ability.
>>> </quote>
>>>
>> 
http://www.bc.edu/content/dam/files/schools/cas_sites/psych/pdf/critique_income_.pdf&sa=U&ei=9wwcVYG_IYifNvHbglg&ved=0CDEQFjAE&usg=AFQjCNHql5VuWxjLdBZr-
>> TLSZPkp-Ed91Q
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> And apple users are not wealthier than others, they just tend to
>>>>>> spend more
>>>>>> for shiny gadgets. They are on the whole dumb as bread, as they
>>>>>> needlessly
>>>>>> spend 2 to 3 times as much money to get something which is inferior
>>>>>> in many
>>>>>> cases
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually they are. But it's an effect and not a cause. They're not
>>>>> smarter+wealthier because they buy Apple products. They are already
>>>>> smarter+wealthier so they're easily able to buy Apple products than
>>>>> the typical minimum wage dimwit.
>>>>
>>>> There is so much wrong with this paragraph, one barely knows where to
>>>> begin.
>>>
>>> You have nowhere to begin because it's true.
>>>
>>>
>>>> First, "Actually, they are."  Bzzt.  You don't know that --
>>>> nor does Dr. Noble.
>>>>
>>>> You're also equivocating, but I'll get to that in a second.
>>>
>>> No. I'm repeating what Dr. Noble at Columbia has stated based on the
>>> research she's seen. This is also consistent with what Cornell
>>> University concluded when they published their findings in American
>>> Psychologist. This is also consistent with much other research that
>>> shows that smarter people earn more than stupid people.
>>>
>>>     "there is a linear trend for a rise in earnings to be
>>>     associated with increasing cognitive ability."
>>>
>>> So it's your position that stupid people earn more than their smarter
>>> peers?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> You can substitute Apple products with any other premium product and
>>>>> get
>>>>> the
>>>>> same result.
>>>>
>>>> This is an unsupported assertion.  The only thing that can be said
>>>> about purchasers of products perceived as "premium" is that the buyer's
>>>> have the cash to buy the product...and have bought into the product's
>>>> marketing.
>>>
>>> "Buying into the marketing" has nothing to do with this. Poor idiots
>>> also buy into marketing, and if anything people with a lower IQ are more
>>> susceptible to marketing hype.
>>>
>>> The part of "the buyers' have the cash to buy the product" is *exactly*
>>> my
>>> point. This has been documented (Cornell - "It is well documented that
>>> IQ influences earnings... there is a linear trend for a rise in earnings
>>> to be associated with increasing cognitive ability."). People with
>>> higher IQs
>>> (smarter people) earn more than dumber people which is why they have the
>>> cash to buy premium products.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> People who drink (and afford) Woodford Reserve bourbon are
>>>>> smarter and wealthier than people who drink Old Crow bourbon.
>>>>
>>>> People who drink bourbon are stupider than people who don't drink. 
>>>> That has nothing to do with their wealth or upbringing, but because
>>>> they're
>>>> imbibing in a drug.  So, REALLY stupid example.
>>>
>>> It's an *example* of a premium product vs. a bargain product. The steak
>>> example can also be called "really stupid" because of the health risks
>>> of eating too much red meat. Are the trees blocking your view of the
>>> forest?
>>>
>>>
>>>> But that's not why we're here -- we're here because of your
>>>> equivocation.  You've taken "wealthier" and turned it into
>>>> "smarter+wealthier" based on an op-ed from a Roger Murdock newspaper,
>>>> which (as shown above) is using very tenuous language to begin with.
>>>
>>> No. It's based on research that's readily available on the web from many
>>> different sources which consistently conclude that intelligence often
>>> results in higher income/earnings which results in greater wealth.
>>>
>>> BREAKING NEWS - Smart people have better jobs and earn more money than
>>> stupid people. Film at 11:00.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Probably the best you could say is that "SOME evidence suggests people
>>>> in poverty grow up disadvantaged".
>>>
>>> *NEARLY ALL* evidence suggests this. You have absolutely ZERO evidence
>>> to suggest that it doesn't.
>>>
>>>
>>>> But the fact that America is a mobile society, with people
>>>> going above and below the poverty line all the time, goes to
>>>> show that your conclusions do not follow your premise.
>>>
>>> These are not my conclusions. These are the "well documented"
>>> conclusions that researchers have been studying for decades.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> People who eat
>>>>> at Smith and Wollensky steakhouse are smarter and wealthier than
>>>>> people who
>>>>> eat at Sizzler.
>>>>
>>>> You haven't shown anything to support such a statement, and there are
>>>> countless counter-examples.
>>>
>>> The support is simple and you said it yourself:
>>>
>>>   "buyer's have the cash to buy the product"
>>>
>>> And research has come to the "well documented" conclusion that smarter
>>> people are much more likely to have the cash than dumber people.
>>>
>>>
>>>> For example, where would you expect college
>>>> students to eat, given these two choices?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I expect them to eat at the school dining hall.  Is this a trick
>>> question?
>>>
>>
>> Looks to me like you singed scoots arse hairs pretty good.
>> LOL!!!
>>
>> If he was very wealthy he wouldn't be here at all.
>>
>>
> 
> It's just the (statistical) facts. Smart people generally do better than
> dumber people.
> 
> There are certainly exceptions. I'm sure there are absolutely gorgeous
> supermodels out there that are as dumb as a goat but get paid $150k/hour
> to model some dress. There are also professional athletes who can dunk
> basketballs or hit a 100-MPH baseball but have an intellect that's rivaled
> only by garden tools. The pro athlete will earn more money in a month or
> two than most people make their entire life.
> 
> On the other side there's some very smart people who never perused high
> paying careers, halted their career due to family/health and things like
> that.
That brings to mind Linus Torvalds.  He could've been very wealthy.
In this it would be his upbringing.

> 
> But if someone were to draw the proverbial "Bell curve" these would be the
> edge cases. They are few and far between and statistically insignificant.
> 
> People may not want to face it but the ugly truth that's backed by many
> studies concludes that if you're poor and living in the ghetto then you're
> most likely dumber and poorer than someone living on the nice side of
> town.
> 
That also has a basis in upbringing.  No real mentors to help push them 
along in the right direction.

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                Re: fucking firefox DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-31 09:25 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-31 09:54 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-31 00:04 +0000
              Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 15:29 -0600
                Re: fucking firefox DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-30 20:49 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 21:56 -0600
                Re: fucking firefox Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-03-31 10:50 +0100
                Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-31 12:11 +0200
                Re: fucking firefox chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-31 07:07 -0500
                Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-31 14:42 +0200
                Re: fucking firefox Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-03-31 13:45 +0100
                Re: fucking firefox DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-31 08:55 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-31 17:13 +0200
                Re: fucking firefox "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-31 11:35 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-04-01 08:09 -0700
                Re: fucking firefox "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-01 11:59 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-01 12:15 -0600
                Re: fucking firefox "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-01 15:26 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-01 16:42 -0600
                Re: fucking firefox vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-04-01 15:01 -0700
                Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-01 16:43 -0600
                Re: fucking firefox "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-01 19:54 -0400
                If wealth and/or IQ made you happy... Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-04-02 06:16 -0700
                Re: If wealth and/or IQ made you happy... Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-04-02 13:47 -0500
                Re: If wealth and/or IQ made you happy... jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-04-02 20:14 +0000
                Re: If wealth and/or IQ made you happy... benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-04-02 17:57 -0400
                Re: If wealth and/or IQ made you happy... "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-02 18:21 -0400
                Re: If wealth and/or IQ made you happy... vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-04-02 16:48 -0700
                Re: If wealth and/or IQ made you happy... "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-02 22:14 -0400
                Define "Good things". Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-04-02 19:29 -0700
                Re: Define "Good things". Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-04-02 22:15 -0500
                Re: Define "Good things". Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-04-02 23:49 -0400
                The House of Saud. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-04-02 07:55 -0700
                Re: fucking firefox Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-04-01 12:07 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-01 18:40 +0000
                Re: fucking firefox vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-04-01 14:52 -0700
                Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-01 16:40 -0600
                Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-31 11:56 -0600
                Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-31 20:31 +0200
                Re: fucking firefox Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-31 12:03 -0700
                Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-31 16:43 -0600
                Re: fucking firefox vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-04-01 07:38 -0700
                Re: fucking firefox ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-04-01 14:42 +0000
                Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-01 17:13 +0200
                Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-01 12:14 -0600
                Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-01 12:13 -0600
                Re: fucking firefox vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-04-01 13:49 -0700
                Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-01 16:39 -0600
          Re: fucking firefox ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 04:15 +0000
            Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-30 04:33 +0000
              Re: fucking firefox ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 04:35 +0000
                Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-30 04:50 +0000
                Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 15:28 -0600
                Re: fucking firefox Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-30 06:00 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 15:28 -0600
                Re: fucking firefox Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2015-03-30 23:26 +0000
              Re: fucking firefox "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-30 08:05 -0400
            Hooting owl Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-30 05:56 -0400
              Re: Hooting owl William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-03-30 11:01 +0100
              Re: Hooting owl Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 08:58 -0700
                Re: Hooting owl Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 09:43 -0700
              Re: Hooting owl GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 15:26 -0600
            Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-30 13:28 -0400
            Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 15:25 -0600
    fucking owl Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-29 12:27 -0400
      Re: fucking owl Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-03-29 12:32 -0400
        Re: fucking owl GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-29 16:00 -0600
      Fucking bowel Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2015-03-29 18:41 +0000
      Re: fucking owl owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-29 18:54 +0000
      Re: fucking owl GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-29 15:58 -0600
  Re: fucking firefox "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-29 09:45 -0400
    Re: fucking firefox Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-29 15:54 +0200
      Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-29 14:06 +0000
    Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-29 10:00 -0400
    Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-29 15:55 -0600
  Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-29 09:55 -0400
  Re: fucking firefox ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-29 14:38 +0000
    Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-29 14:43 +0000
    Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-29 16:42 -0400
    Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-29 15:55 -0600
    Re: fucking firefox taka0038@gmail.com - 2015-04-01 09:23 -0700
  Re: fucking firefox ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-29 14:41 +0000
    Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-29 14:55 +0000
      Re: fucking firefox ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 04:25 +0000
        Re: fucking firefox ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 04:29 +0000
          Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 15:24 -0600
        Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-30 04:44 +0000
        Re: fucking firefox William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-03-30 09:05 +0100
          Re: fucking firefox DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-30 09:55 -0400
            Re: fucking firefox Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 09:40 -0700
              Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 15:23 -0600
        Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 15:22 -0600
    Re: fucking firefox William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-03-29 16:19 +0100
      Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-29 15:41 +0000
        Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-29 15:54 -0600
        Re: fucking firefox ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 04:09 +0000
          Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-30 04:23 +0000
            Re: fucking firefox ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 04:32 +0000
              Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-30 04:40 +0000
              Re: fucking firefox William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-03-30 09:06 +0100
                Re: fucking firefox DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-30 10:06 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 15:21 -0600
                Re: fucking firefox DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-30 20:45 -0400
              Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 15:20 -0600
          Re: fucking firefox William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-03-30 09:02 +0100
          Irritable bowel chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-30 07:09 -0500
            Re: Irritable bowel DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-30 10:40 -0400
          Re: fucking firefox DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-30 10:40 -0400
            Re: fucking firefox "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-30 11:25 -0400
              Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 15:18 -0600
          Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 15:16 -0600
      Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-29 15:53 -0600
      Re: fucking firefox ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 03:47 +0000
        Re: fucking firefox Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-03-30 08:23 -0400
        Re: fucking firefox Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-03-30 16:06 +0100
          Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 15:15 -0600
  Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-29 09:43 -0700
    Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-29 16:57 +0000
      Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-29 12:13 -0700
        Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-29 19:24 +0000
          Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-29 12:35 -0700
            Re: fucking firefox Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-29 12:44 -0700
            Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-29 19:54 +0000
              Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-29 13:06 -0700
                Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-29 20:29 +0000
                Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-29 13:59 -0700
                Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-30 00:55 +0000
                Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-29 18:15 -0700
                Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-30 01:38 +0000
                Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-29 18:54 -0700
                Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-30 02:25 +0000
                Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-29 22:53 -0700
                Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-30 03:12 +0000
                Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-29 22:56 -0700
                Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-30 13:06 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-30 19:46 +0200
                Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-30 14:00 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-30 20:15 +0200
                Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 11:42 -0700
                Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-30 20:54 +0200
                Re: fucking firefox JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-03-30 14:03 -0500
                Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 12:12 -0700
                Re: fucking firefox chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-30 14:22 -0500
                Re: fucking firefox vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-03-30 15:37 -0700
                Re: fucking firefox Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-30 19:50 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 21:51 -0600
                Re: fucking firefox Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-30 19:49 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-03-30 20:01 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-31 08:50 +0200
                "What's a Sea drive?" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-31 05:57 -0400
                Re: "What's a Sea drive?" DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-31 08:40 -0400
                Re: "What's a Sea drive?" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-31 09:14 -0500
                Re: "What's a Sea drive?" DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-31 13:22 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-31 08:57 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-31 17:11 +0200
                Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-31 11:40 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-31 11:47 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-31 13:29 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-31 22:29 +0000
                Re: fucking firefox Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-03-31 18:39 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-04-02 13:31 -0500
                Re: fucking firefox chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-02 14:19 -0500
                Re: fucking firefox JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-04-02 15:42 -0500
                Re: fucking firefox ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-04-02 21:19 +0000
                Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-02 23:41 +0000
                Re: fucking firefox Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-04-02 19:37 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-02 12:49 -0700
                Re: fucking firefox William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-04-02 22:56 +0100
                C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-04-02 19:40 -0400
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-04-03 09:40 +0100
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-04-03 06:04 -0400
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-03 13:07 +0200
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-04-03 12:16 +0100
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-03 07:11 -0500
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:35 -0600
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:35 -0600
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-03 07:57 -0400
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-03 15:21 +0200
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-03 09:42 -0400
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-03 16:03 +0200
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-03 10:16 -0400
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-04-03 10:16 -0400
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:35 -0600
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-03 10:20 -0400
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:34 -0600
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-04-03 22:29 +0100
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-04 09:33 -0400
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-04-03 09:49 -0400
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-03 09:10 -0500
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:31 -0600
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-04-03 11:00 -0500
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-03 12:24 -0400
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-03 12:36 -0400
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:30 -0600
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:30 -0600
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:29 -0600
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-03 15:01 -0400
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-04 16:25 -0600
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:28 -0600
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-04-03 22:29 +0100
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:28 -0600
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-03 13:01 -0400
                Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:27 -0600
                Re: fucking firefox vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-04-02 16:55 -0700
                Re: fucking firefox vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-04-02 17:21 -0700
                Re: fucking firefox "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-02 22:06 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-03 13:02 +0200
                Re: fucking firefox "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-03 07:53 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-03 15:19 +0200
                Re: fucking firefox "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-03 09:36 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:27 -0600
                Re: fucking firefox Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-04-03 09:51 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:26 -0600
                Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:25 -0600
                Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-02 19:03 -0600
                Re: fucking firefox Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-04-02 19:35 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-03 06:49 -0500
                Re: fucking firefox Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-04-03 09:00 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:22 -0600
                Re: fucking firefox "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-03 14:55 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-04 16:24 -0600
                Re: fucking firefox Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-04-03 09:39 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-04-03 11:03 -0500
                Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-31 17:40 -0700
                Re: fucking firefox DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-01 08:45 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-03-31 09:33 -0500
                Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-31 11:11 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-31 17:19 +0200
                Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-31 11:42 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-31 13:18 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-31 11:43 -0600
                Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-31 20:30 +0200
                Re: fucking firefox William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-03-31 22:36 +0100
                Re: fucking firefox Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-31 23:51 +0200
                Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-01 00:18 +0200
                Re: fucking firefox Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-31 19:52 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-31 21:27 -0400
                Re: fucking firefox vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-04-01 08:23 -0700
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