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| From | GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> |
| Subject | Re: fucking firefox |
| Date | 2015-04-01 12:15 -0600 |
| References | (12 earlier) <mfe5g5$rj$1@dont-email.me> <mfedhu$uk3$5@dont-email.me> <mfeepr$71i$1@dont-email.me> <551c0a19$0$44764$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com> <mfh4hm$j9n$1@dont-email.me> |
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Ezekiel wrote: > > "vallor" <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote in message > news:551c0a19$0$44764$c3e8da3$dd9697d2@news.astraweb.com... >> On 03/31/2015 08:35 AM, Ezekiel wrote: >>> "Peter K�hlmann" <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote in message >>>>> >>>>> It's well known that wealthier people are smarter than the >>>>> less-wealthy, >>>> >>>> Nope. Thats bullshit. >>> >>> It's actually a fact. Here's an article from today's Wall Street >>> Journal. Read the last couple of paragraphs from Dr. Noble at Columbia >>> University. (Columbia is one of the top Universities in the world). The >>> neuroscience research on poverty and brain development explains the >>> reason. >>> >>> <quote> >>> Brains, Wealth (or Its Lack) and Academic Achievement >>> Very few wildly successful individuals are stupid and few stupid people >>> are >>> wildly successful. >>> March 31, 2015 >>> >>> New neuroscience research suggests that childhood poverty may shape >>> brain development, potentially explaining differences in subsequent >>> cognitive skills and behavior. We and others have reported compelling >>> links between family income and brain structure and function, in brain >>> regions associated >>> with skills important for academic success. By identifying how income >>> affects early child development, we hope to inform anti-poverty policies >>> that better support children's well-being. >>> >>> Mr. Murray concludes that "blaming inequality of academic outcomes on >>> economic inequality" potentially punishes "children whose strengths do >>> not >>> lie in academics." Yet it is this outlook that may be punitive. Poverty >>> may >>> be the greatest barrier to a child attaining his or her full academic >>> potential. >>> >>> Kimberly G. Noble, M.D., Ph.D. >>> Columbia University >>> </quote> >>> >>> http://www.wsj.com/articles/brains-wealth-or-its-lack-and-academic- achievement-letters-to-the-editor-1427734470 >> >> A Roger Murdock newspaper's op-ed glad-handing the wealthy? I've never >> heard of such a thing! >> >> Oh, but "new...research suggests" and "potentially explaining" are solid >> bricks upon which to build a case, so we should certainly pay >> attention...to the peer-reviewed literature, not to an op-ed. Because >> you can bet that the author's ideas are challenged there. > > Hint for you - this is just ONE example. There are many, many more studies > that have researched the correlation between intelligence and income. This > one example was used because it was relevant and just happened to be > published in the past 24 hours. > > The doctor making those statements is a researcher at an Ivy League > University has seen this "research" and this is actually what she > specializes in. Note the "Her research focuses on socioeconomic > disparities in child neurocognitive development" part. > > <quote> > Kimberly Noble, MD, PhD, is an Assistant Professor of Pediatrics, with a > joint interdisciplinary appointment at the Sergievsky Center. Her research > focuses on socioeconomic disparities in child neurocognitive development, > with an emphasis on reading and language development. > </quote> > > So yes, since this is what she specializes in then she has seen LOTS of > research and may actually know more about the subject than some usenet > moron named "vallor" who offers zero evidence to backup his > unsubstantiated claims. > > > >> Having said that, I think every opportunity for good nutrition, good >> nurturing, and good education should be given to those in poverty. But >> people in that situation? They grow up with a different set of smarts. > > I have no problem with helping those in poverty. But that's not the issue > here. The issue here is the original premise of "It's well known that > wealthier people are smarter than the less-wealthy," > > The fact that smarter people earn more than stupid people has also been > confirmed by another Ivy League University. Here's what Cornell University > has to say about this in a paper that appeared in American Psychologist. > Pay attention to the "well documented" part. > > <quote> > Schooling, Intelligence, and Income > Stephen J. Ceci and Wendy M. Williams > Cornell University > (October 1997 � American Psychologist) > > Contrasting the Roles of Schooling and IQ in Economic Outcomes > > ***It is well documented that IQ influences earnings*** and that schooling > also influences earnings. But are these two effects independent? Consider > an empirical example of IQ's effect on schooling and schooling's effect on > IQ. How does the relationship between schooling and IQ inform the analysis > of why some people earn more than others? > > ...because workers who score higher on IQ tests get more valued positions > and get promoted in them faster than their lower IQ peers. None of the > seven types of evidence we reviewed disconfirm this hypothesis (i.e., that > IQ influences job performance and advancement). > > Consider the data on IQ, schooling, and earnings represented in Figure 1. > As can be seen in Figure 1, even among those with comparable levels of > schooling, the higher a person's level of intellectual ability, the higher > will be that person's weekly earnings. As shown in this figure, there is a > linear trend for a rise in earnings to be associated with increasing > cognitive ability. > </quote> > http://www.bc.edu/content/dam/files/schools/cas_sites/psych/pdf/critique_income_.pdf&sa=U&ei=9wwcVYG_IYifNvHbglg&ved=0CDEQFjAE&usg=AFQjCNHql5VuWxjLdBZr- TLSZPkp-Ed91Q > > > >>>> And apple users are not wealthier than others, they just tend to spend >>>> more >>>> for shiny gadgets. They are on the whole dumb as bread, as they >>>> needlessly >>>> spend 2 to 3 times as much money to get something which is inferior in >>>> many >>>> cases >>> >>> Actually they are. But it's an effect and not a cause. They're not >>> smarter+wealthier because they buy Apple products. They are already >>> smarter+wealthier so they're easily able to buy Apple products than the >>> typical minimum wage dimwit. >> >> There is so much wrong with this paragraph, one barely knows where to >> begin. > > You have nowhere to begin because it's true. > > >> First, "Actually, they are." Bzzt. You don't know that -- >> nor does Dr. Noble. >> >> You're also equivocating, but I'll get to that in a second. > > No. I'm repeating what Dr. Noble at Columbia has stated based on the > research she's seen. This is also consistent with what Cornell University > concluded when they published their findings in American Psychologist. > This is also consistent with much other research that shows that smarter > people earn more than stupid people. > > "there is a linear trend for a rise in earnings to be > associated with increasing cognitive ability." > > So it's your position that stupid people earn more than their smarter > peers? > > > >>> You can substitute Apple products with any other premium product and get >>> the >>> same result. >> >> This is an unsupported assertion. The only thing that can be said about >> purchasers of products perceived as "premium" is that the buyer's have >> the cash to buy the product...and have bought into the product's >> marketing. > > "Buying into the marketing" has nothing to do with this. Poor idiots also > buy into marketing, and if anything people with a lower IQ are more > susceptible to marketing hype. > > The part of "the buyers' have the cash to buy the product" is *exactly* my > point. This has been documented (Cornell - "It is well documented that IQ > influences earnings... there is a linear trend for a rise in earnings to > be associated with increasing cognitive ability."). People with higher IQs > (smarter people) earn more than dumber people which is why they have the > cash to buy premium products. > > > >>> People who drink (and afford) Woodford Reserve bourbon are >>> smarter and wealthier than people who drink Old Crow bourbon. >> >> People who drink bourbon are stupider than people who don't drink. That >> has nothing to do with their wealth or upbringing, but because they're >> imbibing in a drug. So, REALLY stupid example. > > It's an *example* of a premium product vs. a bargain product. The steak > example can also be called "really stupid" because of the health risks of > eating too much red meat. Are the trees blocking your view of the forest? > > >> But that's not why we're here -- we're here because of your >> equivocation. You've taken "wealthier" and turned it into >> "smarter+wealthier" based on an op-ed from a Roger Murdock newspaper, >> which (as shown above) is using very tenuous language to begin with. > > No. It's based on research that's readily available on the web from many > different sources which consistently conclude that intelligence often > results in higher income/earnings which results in greater wealth. > > BREAKING NEWS - Smart people have better jobs and earn more money than > stupid people. Film at 11:00. > > >> Probably the best you could say is that "SOME evidence suggests people >> in poverty grow up disadvantaged". > > *NEARLY ALL* evidence suggests this. You have absolutely ZERO evidence to > suggest that it doesn't. > > >> But the fact that America is a mobile society, with people >> going above and below the poverty line all the time, goes to >> show that your conclusions do not follow your premise. > > These are not my conclusions. These are the "well documented" conclusions > that researchers have been studying for decades. > > >> >>> People who eat >>> at Smith and Wollensky steakhouse are smarter and wealthier than people >>> who >>> eat at Sizzler. >> >> You haven't shown anything to support such a statement, and there are >> countless counter-examples. > > The support is simple and you said it yourself: > > "buyer's have the cash to buy the product" > > And research has come to the "well documented" conclusion that smarter > people are much more likely to have the cash than dumber people. > > >> For example, where would you expect college >> students to eat, given these two choices? >> > > I expect them to eat at the school dining hall. Is this a trick question? > Looks to me like you singed scoots arse hairs pretty good. LOL!!! If he was very wealthy he wouldn't be here at all.
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Re: fucking firefox vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-04-01 14:52 -0700
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-01 16:40 -0600
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-31 11:56 -0600
Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-31 20:31 +0200
Re: fucking firefox Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-31 12:03 -0700
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-31 16:43 -0600
Re: fucking firefox vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-04-01 07:38 -0700
Re: fucking firefox ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-04-01 14:42 +0000
Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-01 17:13 +0200
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-01 12:14 -0600
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-01 12:13 -0600
Re: fucking firefox vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-04-01 13:49 -0700
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-01 16:39 -0600
Re: fucking firefox ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 04:15 +0000
Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-30 04:33 +0000
Re: fucking firefox ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 04:35 +0000
Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-30 04:50 +0000
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 15:28 -0600
Re: fucking firefox Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-30 06:00 -0400
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 15:28 -0600
Re: fucking firefox Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2015-03-30 23:26 +0000
Re: fucking firefox "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-30 08:05 -0400
Hooting owl Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-30 05:56 -0400
Re: Hooting owl William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-03-30 11:01 +0100
Re: Hooting owl Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 08:58 -0700
Re: Hooting owl Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 09:43 -0700
Re: Hooting owl GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 15:26 -0600
Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-30 13:28 -0400
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 15:25 -0600
fucking owl Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-29 12:27 -0400
Re: fucking owl Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-03-29 12:32 -0400
Re: fucking owl GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-29 16:00 -0600
Fucking bowel Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2015-03-29 18:41 +0000
Re: fucking owl owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-29 18:54 +0000
Re: fucking owl GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-29 15:58 -0600
Re: fucking firefox "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-29 09:45 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-29 15:54 +0200
Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-29 14:06 +0000
Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-29 10:00 -0400
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-29 15:55 -0600
Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-29 09:55 -0400
Re: fucking firefox ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-29 14:38 +0000
Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-29 14:43 +0000
Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-29 16:42 -0400
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-29 15:55 -0600
Re: fucking firefox taka0038@gmail.com - 2015-04-01 09:23 -0700
Re: fucking firefox ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-29 14:41 +0000
Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-29 14:55 +0000
Re: fucking firefox ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 04:25 +0000
Re: fucking firefox ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 04:29 +0000
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 15:24 -0600
Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-30 04:44 +0000
Re: fucking firefox William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-03-30 09:05 +0100
Re: fucking firefox DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-30 09:55 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 09:40 -0700
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 15:23 -0600
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 15:22 -0600
Re: fucking firefox William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-03-29 16:19 +0100
Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-29 15:41 +0000
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-29 15:54 -0600
Re: fucking firefox ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 04:09 +0000
Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-30 04:23 +0000
Re: fucking firefox ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 04:32 +0000
Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-30 04:40 +0000
Re: fucking firefox William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-03-30 09:06 +0100
Re: fucking firefox DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-30 10:06 -0400
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 15:21 -0600
Re: fucking firefox DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-30 20:45 -0400
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 15:20 -0600
Re: fucking firefox William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-03-30 09:02 +0100
Irritable bowel chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-30 07:09 -0500
Re: Irritable bowel DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-30 10:40 -0400
Re: fucking firefox DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-30 10:40 -0400
Re: fucking firefox "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-30 11:25 -0400
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 15:18 -0600
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 15:16 -0600
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-29 15:53 -0600
Re: fucking firefox ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 03:47 +0000
Re: fucking firefox Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-03-30 08:23 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-03-30 16:06 +0100
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 15:15 -0600
Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-29 09:43 -0700
Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-29 16:57 +0000
Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-29 12:13 -0700
Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-29 19:24 +0000
Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-29 12:35 -0700
Re: fucking firefox Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-29 12:44 -0700
Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-29 19:54 +0000
Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-29 13:06 -0700
Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-29 20:29 +0000
Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-29 13:59 -0700
Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-30 00:55 +0000
Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-29 18:15 -0700
Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-30 01:38 +0000
Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-29 18:54 -0700
Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-30 02:25 +0000
Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-29 22:53 -0700
Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-30 03:12 +0000
Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-29 22:56 -0700
Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-30 13:06 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-30 19:46 +0200
Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-30 14:00 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-30 20:15 +0200
Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 11:42 -0700
Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-30 20:54 +0200
Re: fucking firefox JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-03-30 14:03 -0500
Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 12:12 -0700
Re: fucking firefox chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-30 14:22 -0500
Re: fucking firefox vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-03-30 15:37 -0700
Re: fucking firefox Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-30 19:50 -0400
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-30 21:51 -0600
Re: fucking firefox Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-30 19:49 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-03-30 20:01 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-31 08:50 +0200
"What's a Sea drive?" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-31 05:57 -0400
Re: "What's a Sea drive?" DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-31 08:40 -0400
Re: "What's a Sea drive?" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-31 09:14 -0500
Re: "What's a Sea drive?" DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-31 13:22 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-31 08:57 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-31 17:11 +0200
Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-31 11:40 -0400
Re: fucking firefox DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-31 11:47 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-31 13:29 -0400
Re: fucking firefox ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-31 22:29 +0000
Re: fucking firefox Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-03-31 18:39 -0400
Re: fucking firefox JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-04-02 13:31 -0500
Re: fucking firefox chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-02 14:19 -0500
Re: fucking firefox JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-04-02 15:42 -0500
Re: fucking firefox ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-04-02 21:19 +0000
Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-02 23:41 +0000
Re: fucking firefox Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-04-02 19:37 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-04-02 12:49 -0700
Re: fucking firefox William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-04-02 22:56 +0100
C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-04-02 19:40 -0400
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-04-03 09:40 +0100
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-04-03 06:04 -0400
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-03 13:07 +0200
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-04-03 12:16 +0100
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-03 07:11 -0500
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:35 -0600
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:35 -0600
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-03 07:57 -0400
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-03 15:21 +0200
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-03 09:42 -0400
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-03 16:03 +0200
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-03 10:16 -0400
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-04-03 10:16 -0400
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:35 -0600
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-03 10:20 -0400
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:34 -0600
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-04-03 22:29 +0100
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-04 09:33 -0400
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-04-03 09:49 -0400
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-03 09:10 -0500
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:31 -0600
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-04-03 11:00 -0500
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-03 12:24 -0400
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-03 12:36 -0400
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:30 -0600
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:30 -0600
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:29 -0600
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-03 15:01 -0400
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-04 16:25 -0600
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:28 -0600
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-04-03 22:29 +0100
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:28 -0600
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-03 13:01 -0400
Re: C:, D:, relics of DOS, in Windows flagship offering GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:27 -0600
Re: fucking firefox vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-04-02 16:55 -0700
Re: fucking firefox vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-04-02 17:21 -0700
Re: fucking firefox "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-02 22:06 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-03 13:02 +0200
Re: fucking firefox "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-03 07:53 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-03 15:19 +0200
Re: fucking firefox "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-03 09:36 -0400
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:27 -0600
Re: fucking firefox Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-04-03 09:51 -0400
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:26 -0600
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:25 -0600
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-02 19:03 -0600
Re: fucking firefox Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-04-02 19:35 -0400
Re: fucking firefox chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-03 06:49 -0500
Re: fucking firefox Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-04-03 09:00 -0400
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:22 -0600
Re: fucking firefox "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-03 14:55 -0400
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-04 16:24 -0600
Re: fucking firefox Tomas <tgif9fri@numo.net> - 2015-04-03 09:39 -0400
Re: fucking firefox JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-04-03 11:03 -0500
Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-31 17:40 -0700
Re: fucking firefox DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-01 08:45 -0400
Re: fucking firefox JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-03-31 09:33 -0500
Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-31 11:11 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-31 17:19 +0200
Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-31 11:42 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-31 13:18 -0400
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-31 11:43 -0600
Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-31 20:30 +0200
Re: fucking firefox William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-03-31 22:36 +0100
Re: fucking firefox Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-03-31 23:51 +0200
Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-01 00:18 +0200
Re: fucking firefox Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-31 19:52 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-31 21:27 -0400
Re: fucking firefox vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-04-01 08:23 -0700
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-01 12:10 -0600
Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-01 14:30 -0400
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-01 16:30 -0600
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-31 16:41 -0600
Re: fucking firefox ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-31 22:49 +0000
Re: fucking firefox Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-31 19:54 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-31 21:35 -0400
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-31 16:40 -0600
Re: fucking firefox William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-03-31 22:33 +0100
Re: fucking firefox ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-03-31 22:39 +0000
Re: fucking firefox DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-31 12:04 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-31 13:34 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-31 10:50 -0700
Re: fucking firefox chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-31 08:33 -0500
Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 12:15 -0700
Re: fucking firefox vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-03-30 15:31 -0700
Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 16:23 -0700
Re: fucking firefox owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-30 23:36 +0000
Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 17:44 -0700
Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-30 15:26 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-30 22:06 +0200
Re: fucking firefox JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-03-30 15:19 -0500
Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-30 23:02 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-31 08:49 +0200
Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-31 08:52 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 11:39 -0700
Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 12:16 -0700
Re: fucking firefox Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-30 19:46 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-31 08:47 +0200
Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-31 08:50 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-03-31 17:07 +0200
Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-31 11:37 -0400
Re: fucking firefox vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-04-01 09:03 -0700
Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-01 12:56 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-01 19:50 +0200
Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-01 14:21 -0400
Re: fucking firefox William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-04-01 22:45 +0100
Re: fucking firefox DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-01 21:01 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-04-01 20:00 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-03-30 12:54 -0400
Re: fucking firefox Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-03-30 10:08 -0700
Re: fucking firefox GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-03-29 15:50 -0600
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