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Getting packages from stable again instead of unstable

From Rick Macdonald <rickmacd@shaw.ca>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Getting packages from stable again instead of unstable
Date 2018-07-19 19:00 +0200
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I'm going to pose my question here at the top in case it can be answered 
without wading through all the details that follow:

Now that I have removed unstable form sources.list and preferences 
(pinning), won't my packages from unstable eventually be upgraded from 
stable as the stable versions become newer than the unstable packages 
that I currently have installed? Or might I hit some dependency problems 
along the way? Should I instead do the downgrades now by pinning stable 
to priority 1001 (with I'm guessing is a one-time thing to do, and then 
remove the pinning)?

Here is the background:

I upgraded to stretch back in November or so, and a couple of programs 
that installed OK didn't actually run properly. I grabbed them from 
unstable and all was good again.

Today I removed all references to unstable in sources.list, and the 
pinning for unstable that I had in preferences.

Prior to removing unstable from sources.list and preferences, "apt-show 
versions | grep unstable" showed, for example:

deluge:all/unstable 1.3.15-2 uptodate

"unstable" is gone from show-versions so I grep for "newer" instead. Now 
it shows:

deluge:all 1.3.15-2 newer than version in archive

Here is the full list of "newer" files:

# apt-show-versions |grep newer
deluge:all 1.3.15-2 newer than version in archive
deluge-common:all 1.3.15-2 newer than version in archive
deluge-console:all 1.3.15-2 newer than version in archive
deluge-gtk:all 1.3.15-2 newer than version in archive
deluge-web:all 1.3.15-2 newer than version in archive
deluged:all 1.3.15-2 newer than version in archive
fontconfig-config:all 2.13.0-5 newer than version in archive
libbluray1:amd64 2:0.7.0-dmo1 newer than version in archive
libboost-chrono1.62.0:amd64 1.62.0+dfsg-7 newer than version in archive
libboost-python1.62.0:amd64 1.62.0+dfsg-7 newer than version in archive
libboost-random1.62.0:amd64 1.62.0+dfsg-7 newer than version in archive
libfontconfig1:amd64 2.13.0-5 newer than version in archive
libfontconfig1:i386 2.13.0-5 newer than version in archive
libnss3:amd64 2:3.38-1 newer than version in archive
libnss3:i386 2:3.38-1 newer than version in archive
libtorrent-rasterbar9:amd64 1.1.5-1+b1 newer than version in archive
python-attr:all 17.4.0-2 newer than version in archive
python-click:all 6.7-5 newer than version in archive
python-libtorrent:amd64 1.1.5-1+b1 newer than version in archive
python-serial:all 3.4-3 newer than version in archive
python-twisted-bin:amd64 18.4.0-2 newer than version in archive
python-twisted-core:all 18.4.0-2 newer than version in archive
python-zope.interface:amd64 4.3.2-1+b2 newer than version in archive
rtmpdump:amd64 2:201412272202-git-1 newer than version in archive
yasm:amd64 1.3.0-dmo2 newer than version in archive

Here is the list of downgrades if I pin stable to 1001:

The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer 
required:
   fonts-stix libevent-2.1-6 libhunspell-1.6-0 libjsoncpp1 libvpx5 
python-automat python-hyperlink
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
   firefox
The following NEW packages will be installed:
   python-twisted-web
The following packages will be DOWNGRADED:
   deluge deluge-common deluge-console deluge-gtk deluge-web deluged 
fontconfig-config libbluray1 libboost-chrono1.62.0 libboost-python1.62.0 
libboost-random1.62.0 libfontconfig1
   libfontconfig1:i386 libnss3 libnss3:i386 libtorrent-rasterbar9 
python-attr python-click python-libtorrent python-serial 
python-twisted-bin python-twisted-core python-zope.interface
   rtmpdump yasm
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 25 downgraded, 1 to remove and 0 not 
upgraded.

It shows the same 25 packages as the list of "newer" above, but I don't 
like that it wants to remove firefox. I have version 58.0.1 installed, 
and to be honest I can't figure out where this version came from. I do 
have some backports installed but that's not where firefox came from:

# dpkg-query -W | grep '~bpo'
libcec3v4:amd64 3.1.0+dfsg1-4~bpo8+2
libcrossguid0v4:amd64   0.0+git200150803-2~bpo8+1
libmysqlclient18:i386   5.6.30-1~bpo8+1
libp8-platform2v4:amd64 2.0.1+dfsg1-1~bpo8+1
libx265-79:amd64        1.9-3~bpo8+1
remmina 1.2.0-rcgit.24-2~bpo9+1
remmina-common  1.2.0-rcgit.24-2~bpo9+1
remmina-plugin-rdp:amd64        1.2.0-rcgit.24-2~bpo9+1
remmina-plugin-vnc:amd64        1.2.0-rcgit.24-2~bpo9+1

My question is: If I just leave it be, won't the packages eventually be 
upgraded from stable as the stable versions become newer than the 
unstable packages that I currently have installed? Or might I hit some 
dependency problems along the way? Should I instead do the downgrades 
now by pinning stable to priority 1001 (with I'm guessing is a one-time 
thing to do, and then remove the pinning)?

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Getting packages from stable again instead of unstable Rick Macdonald <rickmacd@shaw.ca> - 2018-07-19 19:00 +0200
  Re: Getting packages from stable again instead of unstable Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-07-19 20:20 +0200
    Re: Getting packages from stable again instead of unstable Rick Macdonald <rickmacd@shaw.ca> - 2018-07-20 00:50 +0200
    Re: Getting packages from stable again instead of unstable Rick Macdonald <rickmacd@shaw.ca> - 2018-07-21 23:20 +0200
      Re: Getting packages from stable again instead of unstable john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2018-07-22 11:00 +0200
  Re: Getting packages from stable again instead of unstable Jochen Spieker <ml@well-adjusted.de> - 2018-07-20 00:20 +0200
  Re: Getting packages from stable again instead of unstable songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-07-20 06:40 +0200

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