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Re: Getting packages from stable again instead of unstable

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On 19/07/18 12:19 PM, Dan Ritter wrote:
> This isn't absolutely awful; you can recover from this.
>
>> Here is the list of downgrades if I pin stable to 1001:
>>
>> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
>> required:
>>    fonts-stix libevent-2.1-6 libhunspell-1.6-0 libjsoncpp1 libvpx5
>> python-automat python-hyperlink
>> Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
>> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>>    firefox
>> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>>    python-twisted-web
>> The following packages will be DOWNGRADED:
>>    deluge deluge-common deluge-console deluge-gtk deluge-web deluged
>> fontconfig-config libbluray1 libboost-chrono1.62.0 libboost-python1.62.0
>> libboost-random1.62.0 libfontconfig1
>>    libfontconfig1:i386 libnss3 libnss3:i386 libtorrent-rasterbar9 python-attr
>> python-click python-libtorrent python-serial python-twisted-bin
>> python-twisted-core python-zope.interface
>>    rtmpdump yasm
>> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 25 downgraded, 1 to remove and 0 not
>> upgraded.
>>
>> It shows the same 25 packages as the list of "newer" above, but I don't like
>> that it wants to remove firefox. I have version 58.0.1 installed, and to be
>> honest I can't figure out where this version came from. I do have some
>> backports installed but that's not where firefox came from:
>>
>> # dpkg-query -W | grep '~bpo'
>> libcec3v4:amd64 3.1.0+dfsg1-4~bpo8+2
>> libcrossguid0v4:amd64   0.0+git200150803-2~bpo8+1
>> libmysqlclient18:i386   5.6.30-1~bpo8+1
>> libp8-platform2v4:amd64 2.0.1+dfsg1-1~bpo8+1
>> libx265-79:amd64        1.9-3~bpo8+1
>> remmina 1.2.0-rcgit.24-2~bpo9+1
>> remmina-common  1.2.0-rcgit.24-2~bpo9+1
>> remmina-plugin-rdp:amd64        1.2.0-rcgit.24-2~bpo9+1
>> remmina-plugin-vnc:amd64        1.2.0-rcgit.24-2~bpo9+1
>>
>> My question is: If I just leave it be, won't the packages eventually be
>> upgraded from stable as the stable versions become newer than the unstable
>> packages that I currently have installed? Or might I hit some dependency
>> problems along the way? Should I instead do the downgrades now by pinning
>> stable to priority 1001 (with I'm guessing is a one-time thing to do, and
>> then remove the pinning)?
> I would do the downgrades. Then do an "apt-get clean", and after that,
> re-install firefox-esr. If you want an up-to-date firefox,
> install it directly from Mozilla in /opt/firefox.
>
> When you have a limited requirement for unstable or testing
> packages, you can use pinning to get just those packages and
> their dependencies. That's much more manageable than just
> blasting off in the direction of unstable.

Dan, thank-you so much for your reply.

I've been running Debian since maybe mid 1995, well before Bruce 
released Buzz. That doesn't make me smart, just old.  ;-)  This is the 
first time in all these years that I felt I needed mixed packages.

I certainly don't think I "blasted off in the direction of unstable". My 
stance was that I had "a limited requirement for unstable", and thought 
that's what I did. If you don't mind, here's what I did for your insight 
in case I could have done better. Because I had never mixed packages or 
used pinning, I was and still am a bit vague about it.

With unstable in my sources.list, and the following preferences file, I 
installed only deluge using "apt-get -t unstable install deluge", or 
maybe the deluge/unstable format. I may have grabbed another one or two 
library packages in desperation, but I think the rest were dragged in as 
dependencies.

> Package: *
> Pin: release  a=stretch
> Pin-Priority: 700
>
> Package: *
> Pin: release a=stretch-backports
> Pin-Priority: 650
>
> Package: *
> Pin: release a=unstable
> Pin-Priority: 100

Thanks!
Rick

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Getting packages from stable again instead of unstable Rick Macdonald <rickmacd@shaw.ca> - 2018-07-19 19:00 +0200
  Re: Getting packages from stable again instead of unstable Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-07-19 20:20 +0200
    Re: Getting packages from stable again instead of unstable Rick Macdonald <rickmacd@shaw.ca> - 2018-07-20 00:50 +0200
    Re: Getting packages from stable again instead of unstable Rick Macdonald <rickmacd@shaw.ca> - 2018-07-21 23:20 +0200
      Re: Getting packages from stable again instead of unstable john doe <johndoe65534@mail.com> - 2018-07-22 11:00 +0200
  Re: Getting packages from stable again instead of unstable Jochen Spieker <ml@well-adjusted.de> - 2018-07-20 00:20 +0200
  Re: Getting packages from stable again instead of unstable songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-07-20 06:40 +0200

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