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Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?]

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On 07/15/2018 06:44 AM, Reco wrote:
> 	Hi.
> 
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 12:16:20PM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> would you mind to take a look at
>>
>> 	https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=888743
>>
>> The fix is pretty easy.
> 
> But does not address all the cornercases, IMO.
> Consider, for instance, an LXC container which shares root filesystem
> with the host.
> 
> 
>> Whats really bugging me is that nobody
>> dares to touch the complex code of lsb-base. IMHO this is a clear
>> indication that Debian lost the blessed path other Unixes do follow.
> 
> Agreed. Debian drifted away from LSB several years ago, so the lack of
> maintainers' interest is sad, but is to be expected.
> 
> 
>> What is your suggestion here? Apply the patch I provided (or maybe a
>> better one), or get rid of lsb-base completely?
> 
> Aim to ditch lsb-base in the long run.
> For here and now I'd used something like 'pgrep -x --ns 1
> $DAEMON_EXECUTABLE' instead of pidof.

I didn't know what "lsb-base" was when I read original post.
Not sure I know now ;/
Did web search. Found it's an acronym for "Linux Standard Base".
Searched.
Found its purpose was to provide outside programmers a "sane" &/or 
"consistent" target.

Is it of any use to Debian _users_ who *ONLY* use official Debian 
repositories?

I know that is a "loaded" question".
Answers should be "food for thought."

IOW Can I a Debian user opt to not install "LSB" without ill effects?

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Debian got too fat? Harald Dunkel <harri@afaics.de> - 2018-07-15 12:30 +0200
  Re: Debian got too fat? Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 13:50 +0200
    Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-07-15 21:40 +0200
      Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 22:10 +0200
        Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-07-17 04:00 +0200
      Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-07-15 23:00 +0200
      Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] John Crawley <john@bunsenlabs.org> - 2018-07-16 04:00 +0200
        Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2018-07-16 12:20 +0200
          Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-07-16 14:20 +0200
            Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-07-16 16:00 +0200
        Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-07-16 14:10 +0200
          Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-07-16 14:50 +0200
            Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-07-16 15:10 +0200
            Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 15:20 +0200
              Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-07-16 19:30 +0200
                Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-07-16 20:10 +0200
                Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-07-17 02:20 +0200
                Differences between installs (was: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?]) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2018-07-18 03:40 +0200
                Re: Differences between installs (was: Naive newbie question [Re:  Debian got too fat?]) Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-07-18 10:30 +0200
        Re: A Different Naive Question [Re: Naive newbie question] Octopus Octopus <oct2pus@jade.moe> - 2018-07-17 03:20 +0200
          Re: A Different Naive Question [Re: Naive newbie question] Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-07-17 04:00 +0200
            Re: A Different Naive Question [Re: Naive newbie question] Austin LaBerta <oct2pus@jade.moe> - 2018-07-17 13:00 +0200
              Re: A Different Naive Question [Re: Naive newbie question] Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-07-17 14:10 +0200
    Re: Debian got too fat? Harald Dunkel <harald.dunkel@aixigo.de> - 2018-07-16 08:50 +0200
  Re: Debian got too fat? Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2018-07-16 10:50 +0200
    Re: Debian got too fat? Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 22:00 +0200
    Re: Debian got too fat? Harald Dunkel <harald.dunkel@aixigo.de> - 2018-07-17 09:20 +0200

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