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Re: Debian got too fat?

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	Hi.

On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 12:16:20PM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> would you mind to take a look at
> 
> 	https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=888743
> 
> The fix is pretty easy.

But does not address all the cornercases, IMO.
Consider, for instance, an LXC container which shares root filesystem
with the host.


> Whats really bugging me is that nobody
> dares to touch the complex code of lsb-base. IMHO this is a clear
> indication that Debian lost the blessed path other Unixes do follow.

Agreed. Debian drifted away from LSB several years ago, so the lack of
maintainers' interest is sad, but is to be expected.


> What is your suggestion here? Apply the patch I provided (or maybe a
> better one), or get rid of lsb-base completely?

Aim to ditch lsb-base in the long run.
For here and now I'd used something like 'pgrep -x --ns 1
$DAEMON_EXECUTABLE' instead of pidof.

Reco

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Debian got too fat? Harald Dunkel <harri@afaics.de> - 2018-07-15 12:30 +0200
  Re: Debian got too fat? Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 13:50 +0200
    Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-07-15 21:40 +0200
      Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2018-07-15 22:10 +0200
        Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-07-17 04:00 +0200
      Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-07-15 23:00 +0200
      Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] John Crawley <john@bunsenlabs.org> - 2018-07-16 04:00 +0200
        Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2018-07-16 12:20 +0200
          Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-07-16 14:20 +0200
            Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-07-16 16:00 +0200
        Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-07-16 14:10 +0200
          Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-07-16 14:50 +0200
            Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-07-16 15:10 +0200
            Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 15:20 +0200
              Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-07-16 19:30 +0200
                Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-07-16 20:10 +0200
                Re: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?] Zenaan Harkness <zenaan@freedbms.net> - 2018-07-17 02:20 +0200
                Differences between installs (was: Naive newbie question [Re: Debian got too fat?]) Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> - 2018-07-18 03:40 +0200
                Re: Differences between installs (was: Naive newbie question [Re:  Debian got too fat?]) Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-07-18 10:30 +0200
        Re: A Different Naive Question [Re: Naive newbie question] Octopus Octopus <oct2pus@jade.moe> - 2018-07-17 03:20 +0200
          Re: A Different Naive Question [Re: Naive newbie question] Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-07-17 04:00 +0200
            Re: A Different Naive Question [Re: Naive newbie question] Austin LaBerta <oct2pus@jade.moe> - 2018-07-17 13:00 +0200
              Re: A Different Naive Question [Re: Naive newbie question] Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-07-17 14:10 +0200
    Re: Debian got too fat? Harald Dunkel <harald.dunkel@aixigo.de> - 2018-07-16 08:50 +0200
  Re: Debian got too fat? Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org> - 2018-07-16 10:50 +0200
    Re: Debian got too fat? Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2018-07-16 22:00 +0200
    Re: Debian got too fat? Harald Dunkel <harald.dunkel@aixigo.de> - 2018-07-17 09:20 +0200

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