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Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements

From Joe <joe@jretrading.com>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements
Date 2018-10-24 23:00 +0200
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 15:09:37 -0400
Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> wrote:

> On 10/24/18 2:05 PM, Joe wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 12:47:10 -0400
> > Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> wrote:
> >  

> >>
> >> Re. ISP objections - those objections sometimes take the form of
> >> active measures that block various kinds of traffic.  
> > Then they're not a proper ISP. I pay for an *Internet* connection,
> > not just the forwarding of a few ports that are convenient for the
> > provider.  
> 
> You can argue what constitutes proper or not, if you want a
> connection with any level of bandwidth, you're talking a major
> carrier - and they deliver the service that they want to.

I've always found it odd that the country that invented the Internet
seems to have such poor Internet provision. We (UK) have the choice of
at least half a dozen major ISPs, all delivering fibre to the local
cabinet, i.e. 40-80Mb/s, at least in cities and towns. Rural is a bit
patchy.

Two of them are fairly professional, another one very much so but
expensive, the rest are domestic who wouldn't know a fixed IP address if
it bit them. There are also many small ISPs who buy wholesale from
BT, the national phone company. But there's plenty of genuine
competition, and at least three of the ISPs will provide a fixed IP
address and no messing about with blocking. BT itself will also
provide fixed IP but unfortunately with a domestic level of customer
service, even on its 'business' accounts. 

As to bandwidth, I'd have thought a private mailing list would have
fairly small requirements, at least compared with a houseful of teens
streaming films...

-- 
Joe

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Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-10-23 16:00 +0200
  Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 16:40 +0200
  Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Jeremy Nicoll <jn.ml.dbn.25@letterboxes.org> - 2018-10-23 16:50 +0200
  Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-10-23 17:20 +0200
    Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-10-24 02:20 +0200
      Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-10-24 06:40 +0200
        Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-10-24 12:50 +0200
          Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-10-24 18:50 +0200
            Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 19:00 +0200
              Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-10-24 19:10 +0200
              Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-10-24 20:10 +0200
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 02:40 +0200
            Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-10-24 19:50 +0200
              Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2018-10-24 20:10 +0200
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-10-24 20:40 +0200
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-10-24 21:10 +0200
            Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Andrew Wood <andrewjameswood@ymail.com> - 2018-10-24 20:00 +0200
              Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-10-24 20:30 +0200
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Andrew Wood <andrewjameswood@ymail.com> - 2018-10-25 22:20 +0200
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Andrew Wood <andrewjameswood@ymail.com> - 2018-10-25 22:30 +0200
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-10-25 22:40 +0200
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 18:30 +0100
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-10-30 18:40 +0100
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-10-30 20:10 +0100
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-10-30 20:30 +0100
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 20:40 +0100
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 20:30 +0100
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-10-30 22:00 +0100
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 00:20 +0100
            Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-10-24 20:10 +0200
              Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-10-24 21:20 +0200
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-10-24 23:00 +0200
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-10-24 23:10 +0200
  Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-10-23 18:00 +0200
    Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-10-24 16:00 +0200

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