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Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements

From	Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements
Date	2018-10-24 21:20 +0200
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On 10/24/18 2:05 PM, Joe wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 12:47:10 -0400
> Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> wrote:
>
>> On 10/24/18 6:45 AM, rhkramer@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 12:32:15 AM Miles Fidelman wrote:
>>>   
>>>> Yes, but you really need a PUBLIC static IP address, or things
>>>> tend to
>>>   
>>>> get hairy.  Dynamic DNS will help, but only to a point.  And, a
>>>> lot of
>>>   
>>>> ISPs really don't like it if you run servers at the edge.
>>> We are currently such a small group, I don't think it will be an
>>> issue -- if that changes, we can change.
>>>   
>> Which - DynDNS or ISP objections?
>>
>> The thing about dynamic DNS is that people cache DNS records - mail
>> sent to the list WILL go to the wrong place on occasion.
>>
>> Re. ISP objections - those objections sometimes take the form of
>> active measures that block various kinds of traffic.
> Then they're not a proper ISP. I pay for an *Internet* connection, not
> just the forwarding of a few ports that are convenient for the provider.

You can argue what constitutes proper or not, if you want a connection 
with any level of bandwidth, you're talking a major carrier - and they 
deliver the service that they want to.

>
>>>> Bummer.  But maybe another, larger, Linux user group might help
>>>> you
>>>   
>>>> out?  I expect there might be somebody on this list who might
>>>> volunteer
>>>   
>>>> (hint, hint).  Maybe somebody at a nearby university - I believe
>>>> you
>>>   
>>>> have a few of those in the Lehigh Valley :-)
>>> We've had somebody make such an offer, and we'll probably take them
>>> up on it -- I sort of wanted to try to set up a small mail list on
>>> one of my computers, as long as I didn't have to run a web server
>>> or a *nix style MTA
>>>   
>> Now that is kind of hard to do.  All the mailing list servers that
>> I've worked with require a rather intimate interconnection with the
>> MTA that processes mail.  And that's before you "wire in" anti-spam
>> and anti-virus filters.  And, you'll need a webserver for access to
>> various administrative functions, and archive access.  Depending on
>> the list server, you might also require a dbms.  Setting up list
>> services can be an entertaining and educational exercise (also
>> frustrating), but it's not simple.  (Actually, the simplest approach
>> is using an MTA and managing lists in the alias file.)
> There's no technical problem to using a local MTA and your ISP's SMTP
> server as a proxy.
>
You still need a local MTA - which the OP doesn't seem to want to run.

-- 
In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is.  .... Yogi Berra

Thread

Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-10-23 16:00 +0200
  Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-10-23 16:40 +0200
  Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Jeremy Nicoll <jn.ml.dbn.25@letterboxes.org> - 2018-10-23 16:50 +0200
  Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-10-23 17:20 +0200
    Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-10-24 02:20 +0200
      Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-10-24 06:40 +0200
        Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-10-24 12:50 +0200
          Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-10-24 18:50 +0200
            Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-10-24 19:00 +0200
              Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-10-24 19:10 +0200
              Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-10-24 20:10 +0200
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2018-10-25 02:40 +0200
            Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-10-24 19:50 +0200
              Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Reco <recoverym4n@enotuniq.net> - 2018-10-24 20:10 +0200
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-10-24 20:40 +0200
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-10-24 21:10 +0200
            Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Andrew Wood <andrewjameswood@ymail.com> - 2018-10-24 20:00 +0200
              Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-10-24 20:30 +0200
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Andrew Wood <andrewjameswood@ymail.com> - 2018-10-25 22:20 +0200
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Andrew Wood <andrewjameswood@ymail.com> - 2018-10-25 22:30 +0200
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-10-25 22:40 +0200
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 18:30 +0100
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-10-30 18:40 +0100
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-10-30 20:10 +0100
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-10-30 20:30 +0100
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 20:40 +0100
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-10-30 20:30 +0100
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-10-30 22:00 +0100
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-10-31 00:20 +0100
            Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-10-24 20:10 +0200
              Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-10-24 21:20 +0200
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-10-24 23:00 +0200
                Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-10-24 23:10 +0200
  Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-10-23 18:00 +0200
    Re: Advice on mailing list software -- special requirements rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-10-24 16:00 +0200

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