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Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname)

From terryc <terryc@woa.com.au>
Newsgroups linux.debian.user
Subject Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname)
Date 2018-03-21 10:40 +0100
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On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 09:00:16 +0100
<tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote:


> To put that on stronger terms -- we'd end up with two and a half
> gatekeepers for mail: Google, Hotmail (aka Microsoft) and... who
> did I forget?




yahoo for a starter, then there is that French mob OVH and the NL mob
> 
> The same nightmare we have at the moment with the so-called "social"
> networks.
> 
> They are already trying hard (and spam *is* their ally in that). Don't
> help them, they are powerful enough as-is.

Sspam? the above are the major sources. I've got permanent blocks on
their IPs.

In the Tl;Dr answer as to why I don't pay someone else to host my mail,
$$$ says it all. My mail server runs on my oldest hardware. It was a
P90 with 96Mb(?) ramm until a couple of years ago. now it is a PII and
it uses the same quantum 6.4Gb scsi that is has for most of its ~ 20
year life (hardware and mailer).

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hostname bolakim53@mail2tor.com - 2018-02-15 15:30 +0100
  Re: hostname Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-02-15 15:40 +0100
    Re: hostname Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-02-15 17:40 +0100
      Re: domain names, was: hostname Jeremy Nicoll <jn.ml.dbn.25@letterboxes.org> - 2018-02-19 13:30 +0100
        Re: domain names, was: hostname Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-02-19 14:50 +0100
          Re: domain names, was: hostname Jeremy Nicoll <jn.ml.dbn.25@letterboxes.org> - 2018-02-20 20:40 +0100
            Re: domain names, was: hostname Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-02-20 20:50 +0100
              Re: domain names, was: hostname Jeremy Nicoll <jn.ml.dbn.25@letterboxes.org> - 2018-02-20 21:00 +0100
            Re: domain names, was: hostname Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-02-21 01:20 +0100
            Re: domain names, was: hostname mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-02-21 01:30 +0100
              Re: domain names, was: hostname Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-02-21 01:50 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Glenn English <ghe2001@gmail.com> - 2018-02-21 02:10 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-02-21 02:10 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2018-02-21 07:10 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2018-02-21 11:30 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-02-21 13:50 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2018-02-21 13:50 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-02-21 13:00 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2018-02-21 13:50 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-02-21 16:40 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Frank <zuiderduin@gmx.com> - 2018-02-23 21:00 +0100
        Re: domain names, was: hostname David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-02-19 17:30 +0100
          Re: domain names, was: hostname Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-02-19 19:40 +0100
            Re: domain names, was: hostname David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-02-22 19:00 +0100
              Re: domain names, was: hostname Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-02-23 14:00 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-02-24 04:50 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-02-26 11:50 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-02-26 19:00 +0100
              Re: domain names, was: hostname Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-02-23 14:10 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-02-23 18:10 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname mick crane <mick.crane@gmail.com> - 2018-03-21 17:20 +0100
              Re: domain names, was: hostname Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-02-23 17:20 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-03-20 23:10 +0100
                Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname) Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2018-03-21 00:00 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was:  domain names, was: hostname) Forest Dean Feighner <forest.feighner@gmail.com> - 2018-03-21 00:20 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-03-21 22:10 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was:  domain names, was: hostname) Forest Dean Feighner <forest.feighner@gmail.com> - 2018-03-21 22:10 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-03-21 22:30 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was:  domain names, was: hostname) Forest <forest.feighner@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 01:40 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 21:40 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was:  domain names, was: hostname) <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-03-21 09:10 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was:  domain names, was: hostname) terryc <terryc@woa.com.au> - 2018-03-21 10:40 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was:  domain names, was: hostname) "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-03-22 07:30 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was:  domain names, was: hostname) Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 19:00 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@surfnaked.ca> - 2018-03-21 16:50 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-03-21 17:10 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-03-21 17:40 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-03-21 18:00 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-03-21 21:40 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-03-21 22:30 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-03-21 23:00 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-03-21 23:30 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-03-22 01:10 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-03-22 01:10 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-03-21 21:50 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2018-03-21 22:50 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-03-21 23:50 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Darac Marjal <mailinglist@darac.org.uk> - 2018-03-22 09:40 +0100
                Re: Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet dekks herton <dekkzz78@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 00:10 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-03-23 01:50 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-03-21 22:30 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-03-21 22:20 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-03-22 00:40 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 09:00 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-03-22 15:00 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was:  domain names, was: hostname) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-03-21 21:00 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was:  domain names, was: hostname) Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-03-21 21:30 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was:  domain names, was: hostname) Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-03-21 22:00 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-03-21 22:40 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-03-21 22:40 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2018-03-21 23:10 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-03-22 01:20 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-03-22 13:20 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2018-03-22 23:10 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-03-22 23:50 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2018-03-23 00:20 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-03-23 02:10 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2018-03-23 04:00 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-03-23 02:50 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2018-03-23 04:10 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-03-23 13:30 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Phil Dobbin <bukowskiscat@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 15:10 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-03-23 17:50 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was:  domain names, was: hostname) David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-03-22 01:00 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was: domain names, was: hostname) deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-03-22 09:20 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was:  domain names, was: hostname) Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-03-22 09:50 +0100
                Re: Federated, decentralised communication on the internet (was:  domain names, was: hostname) Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-03-22 14:00 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-03-22 18:50 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-03-22 19:10 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-03-22 21:30 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-03-23 03:10 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-03-23 17:00 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-03-23 18:10 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-03-23 18:10 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-03-24 01:50 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> - 2018-03-24 14:00 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname "Michelle Konzack" <linux4michelle@tamay-dogan.net> - 2018-03-24 14:10 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-03-23 20:20 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-03-23 21:10 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-03-23 21:30 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2018-03-24 02:30 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-03-24 02:10 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-03-23 23:30 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Forest <forest.feighner@gmail.com> - 2018-03-23 23:50 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-03-24 00:00 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-03-24 01:20 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-03-24 02:20 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-03-24 02:40 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-03-22 23:30 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-03-23 03:50 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-03-23 11:50 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-03-23 16:50 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-03-23 17:00 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-03-23 18:50 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-03-23 20:00 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-03-23 21:10 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-03-21 00:10 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Richard Hector <richard@walnut.gen.nz> - 2018-03-21 04:40 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-03-21 18:30 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-03-21 21:10 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-03-22 02:10 +0100
        Re: domain names, was: hostname Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2018-02-19 18:30 +0100
          Re: domain names, was: hostname Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-02-19 20:00 +0100
            Re: domain names, was: hostname Brad Rogers <brad@fineby.me.uk> - 2018-02-19 20:20 +0100
              Re: domain names, was: hostname Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-02-19 20:30 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-02-19 21:40 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-02-19 21:50 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@debian.org> - 2018-02-19 22:00 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-02-19 22:20 +0100
                Re: domain names, was: hostname Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2018-02-19 22:00 +0100
    Re: hostname deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-02-15 19:10 +0100
    Re: hostname Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2018-02-15 20:50 +0100
      Re: hostname Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-02-15 21:40 +0100
        Re: hostname Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2018-02-15 23:30 +0100
        Re: hostname Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2018-02-15 23:50 +0100
          Re: hostname Gene Heskett <gheskett@shentel.net> - 2018-02-16 01:30 +0100
          Re: hostname deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-02-16 07:50 +0100
        Re: hostname Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-02-16 00:50 +0100
      Re: hostname deloptes <deloptes@gmail.com> - 2018-02-15 22:20 +0100
    Re: hostname Nicholas Geovanis <nickgeovanis@gmail.com> - 2018-02-15 20:50 +0100
    Re: hostname David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-02-16 00:20 +0100
      Re: hostname Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2018-02-16 01:00 +0100
    hostname Jonathan de Boyne Pollard <J.deBoynePollard-newsgroups@NTLWorld.COM> - 2018-02-18 09:10 +0100
      Re: hostname Reco <recoverym4n@gmail.com> - 2018-02-18 09:50 +0100

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