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| From | knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.os.windows-11 |
| Subject | Re: Bypass Recycle Bin |
| Date | 2025-04-26 08:52 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <vuikue$2dg6k$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | (2 earlier) <vughcn$g3km$1@dont-email.me> <vugl9i$jr0m$1@dont-email.me> <vugn2p$kjrr$2@dont-email.me> <vugq9l$o8nq$1@dont-email.me> <vuievp$26dj0$2@dont-email.me> |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On 4/26/2025 7:10 AM, Ed Cryer wrote: > Paul wrote: >> On Fri, 4/25/2025 3:16 PM, Ed Cryer wrote: >>> Paul wrote: >>>> On Fri, 4/25/2025 1:39 PM, Ed Cryer wrote: >>>>> Paul wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, 4/25/2025 1:00 PM, Ed Cryer wrote: >>>>>>> I regularly empty folders of waste; Temp folders usually. They >>>>>>> can be holding hundreds of files, so I bypass the Recycle Bin in >>>>>>> its Properties; then switch back afterwards. >>>>>>> Until today, that is. I've found a quicker and less troublesome way. >>>>>>> Select files to delete, press the “Shift” and “Delete” keys >>>>>>> together. >>>>>>> Cool. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ed >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, the Shift key also works for the "delete" choice in the menu. >>>>>> You move your mouse away from the general area, press Shift, >>>>>> then open the menu and select Delete. And that should avoid all the >>>>>> "shifting and calculating", saving about half the time. >>>>>> >>>>>> I was deleting on the other machine, and we hit a new low today, >>>>>> only able to delete 300 files a second. When you have 200,000 files >>>>>> to delete, that is a pretty miserable level of performance. I'd >>>>>> be better off booting Linux and deleting the files there. >>>>>> >>>>>> The delete command in Command Prompt, is likely to do better >>>>>> than that, because no animation is required for that method. >>>>>> >>>>>> Paul >>>>> >>>>> What the dickens were you doing having 200,000 files to delete? >>>>> Not even Edge comes close to that number on my system >>>>> (:- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ed >>>> >>>> Win10 C:\Windows\servicing\LCU >>>> >>>> That can have 200,000 files in it, and it's a waste >>>> of SearchIndexer munching time, to leave that there. >>>> >>>> That can be deleted (contents of LCU Last Cumulative Update). >>>> It's up to you to decide whether that's a good tradeoff or not >>>> (in case the system needs to roll back the Patch Tuesday Cumulative). >>>> >>>> It's a waste of time defragmenting that. It's a waste of >>>> time for Agent Ransack to search through there. It's a waste >>>> of time letting the SearchIndexer process it. Etc. >>>> >>>> Win11 doesn't have an LCU. >>>> >>>> Paul >>> >>> Jeez, yes. That's new to me, but mine contains 2 1/4GB* of stuff. >>> Can I safely delete it? >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> * I'm favouring pre-decimal terminology. This is in support of paper >>> money which is disappearing in the UK so rapidly in favour of plastic >>> cards that it'll probably be obsolete in a few years. >>> >> >> I don't know what the "re-use" method is, so I can't say >> whether it has ever been used/needed by Microsoft. Microsoft did >> do a rollback recently, as a cure for some crashing systems (kernel >> level issue). >> >> "In the worst-case scenario, you may be unable to uninstall >> the latest quality update. But I don't think deleting an LCU >> subfolder >> is as risky as deleting a folder under WinSxS or Servicing\Packages. >> _________________________ >> Ramesh, Windows Shell MVP >> " >> >> https://superuser.com/questions/1810433/c-windows-servicing-lcu- >> slowing-down-servers-and-workstations-mitigate-automat >> >> I would do a Repair Install, the first time it causes an issue. And there >> is always RevertPending if something blows up before the Patch Tuesday >> finished. >> >> At one time, it was claimed you could delete the contents of WinSxS >> (and at least, have the OS still able to boot, but not be "maintain- >> able"), >> but when I tested that here, it would not boot after that. Whereas, at >> least >> so far, the LCU cleaning (removing the Packages underneath that folder), >> has worked OK for me. That doesn't mean it's a good thing to do, but >> if they think so highly of their handicraft, why don't they put that >> crap in a container, so it's in one file per package ? There's no >> good reason to put bushels of files on my fucking C: :-/ My C: >> drive is not a toilet. >> >> Paul > > My SSDs on all machines never get close to even half full, so I don't > know why I spend time clearing the Temp folders; perhaps it's just a > left-over impulse from earlier computing days. I'm a tidiness freak. > It's also dangerous to go cleaning without full understanding of what > you're doing. I'm going to slap my wrists and tell myself to leave well > enough alone. > > Curiosity drives me to look in all the corners; and what I find is quite > startling. Left-overs of all kinds; full installation packages in some > cases. > Sloppiness? Or have things changed so radically since I was a programmer? > > Ed I just got this computer and the first experience with Windows 11. With this discussion I went looking for the Disk Clean function, and could not find it in Windows 11. I don't yet know how to access it directly but it can be found and run but search "Disk Clean" from the Start Menu. I also discovered there is something call Storage Sense. As I understand it it is supposes to do the same functions as Disk Clean automatically on a user control schedule.
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Bypass Recycle Bin Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-04-25 18:00 +0100
Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-25 13:28 -0400
Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-04-25 18:39 +0100
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Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-25 16:11 -0400
Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-04-26 12:10 +0100
Re: Bypass Recycle Bin knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-26 08:52 -0400
Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-04-26 19:05 +0100
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Re: Bypass Recycle Bin knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-25 19:24 -0400
Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-25 23:50 -0400
Re: Bypass Recycle Bin knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-26 08:55 -0400
Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-26 14:43 +0000
Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-04-26 19:19 +0100
Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-26 19:30 +0000
Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-04-26 15:07 -0700
Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-26 19:30 -0400
Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-27 15:43 +0000
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Re: Bypass Recycle Bin "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2025-04-25 17:58 -0400
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Re: Bypass Recycle Bin knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-25 19:27 -0400
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Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-04-25 20:29 -0500
Re: Bypass Recycle Bin "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-04-26 10:10 +0100
Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-26 16:36 -0400
Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-04-26 22:01 +0100
Re: Bypass Recycle Bin Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-26 16:38 -0500
Re: Bypass Recycle Bin VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-25 22:26 -0500
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