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Re: Is anyone contemplating staying on Windows 10 & getting free support to 2032?

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On Sat, 4/26/2025 12:55 AM, Peter wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Apr 2025 23:54:41 -0400, Paul wrote:
> 
>>>   I don't know what it will cost. Personally I would no longer
>>> accept MS updates if they paid me... Well, depending on
>>> what they were willing to pay. I could maybe come up with
>>> an hourly rate for being a focus group lackey. :)
>>
>> These are post-OS security updates.
>>
>> I can promise you, they won't over-exert themselves.
>>
>> You'll receive more download bytes of Windows Defender AV
>> definitions, than Security Updates.
>>
>> The feature set will be "frozen" at that point.
> 
> The most stable software is code that nobody is working on, but of course, 
> it's also likely to be the most attacked software for the very same reason.
> 
> What people would need to weigh I would think is the cost of an Enterprise 
> license versus the cost of switching out whatever is needed to upgrade.
> 
> What do most home users who can't upgrade need in terms of hardware?
> Is it the motherboard needs to support TPM 2.0 & UEFI Secure Boot?
> 
> If you switch out the motherboard, won't that also need a new license?
> 

A System Builder SKU of the OS, can't be moved. It is installed
on one piece of hardware and that is it. The hardware-hash calculation
value, would not match any entry on the Microsoft license server,
and the OS would not activate, if you change the motherboard. Generally,
the onboard NIC MAC value is a pretty strong identifier for the
machine. Any DMI declaration about what motherboard model it is,
isn't as strong an identifier.

There is supposed to be a Retail SKU which can be moved.
If you change the motherboard, that should be OK, plus or minus
some amount of ceremony. With the Retail SKU, the machines checking
in can't all be running off the same license, and your last
license transaction is the one that counts. The others would
show Not Genuine or such. Retail SKU is generally twice as
expensive as System Builder.

The most I ever paid for a license, was $300 for Win2K from Computer City
(no longer in business here at least). That was back in the days when
computer stores had aisles of software in boxes. The fixation with
licenses wasn't quite the same back then (wasn't implemented exactly
the same way). But also back then, there were "Upgrade Versions" of
software. For that $300, that wasn't even a stand-alone version!
I had to install that over top of Windows 98 or something, although
the qualifying OS had nothing to do with Win2K. And generally the
installation procedure for an Upgrade, only worked with one qualifying OS.
IT was the Win10 Free Upgrade that worked with Win7 Sp1 and Win 8.1,
which was the first multi-OS qualifying on Upgrade.

This is why you need licensing experts, to remember all the twists
and turns in the road.

   Paul

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  Re: Is anyone contemplating staying on Windows 10 & getting free support to 2032? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-04-25 07:18 +0200
    Re: Is anyone contemplating staying on Windows 10 & getting free support to 2032? "Jan K." <janicekoziol@nie.ma.spamu.prosze.com> - 2025-04-25 07:08 +0000
    Re: Is anyone contemplating staying on Windows 10 & getting free support to 2032? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-25 08:40 -0400
      Re: Is anyone contemplating staying on Windows 10 & getting free support to 2032? Hank <hankrobins@notspam.uk> - 2025-04-25 22:02 +0200
        Re: Is anyone contemplating staying on Windows 10 & getting free support to 2032? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-25 16:45 -0400
        Re: Is anyone contemplating staying on Windows 10 & getting free support to 2032? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-25 17:27 -0400
        Re: Is anyone contemplating staying on Windows 10 & getting free support to 2032? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-25 17:27 -0400
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