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Re: Is anyone contemplating staying on Windows 10 & getting free support to 2032?

From Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Is anyone contemplating staying on Windows 10 & getting free support to 2032?
Date 2025-04-25 17:27 -0400
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On 4/25/2025 4:02 PM, Hank wrote:
> Newyana2 wrote to us on Fri, 25 Apr 2025 08:40:50 -0400:
> 
>>    It's mainly about security updates. But you have to
>> buy an enterprise license.
> 
> To implement the suggestions to switch to those Windows 10 versions in the
> article whose support ends January 9, 2029 or January 13, 2032, do you need
> to buy them first? Any idea how much? Maybe it's worth it for the updates?

   I don't know what it will cost. Personally I would no longer
accept MS updates if they paid me... Well, depending on
what they were willing to pay. I could maybe come up with
an hourly rate for being a focus group lackey. :)

   Buying from MS is surely expensive. I checked the source
that I've bought keys from, but they don't have enterprise.
If you buy enterprise then you also need to install fresh, in
which case new hardware might make sense. Enterprise
is just their quirky term for corporate. It's a system sold by
number of seats. That's where MS make most of their money.

   So the idea is slightly interesting, but you can probably buy
or build a new Windows 11 computer for less. Or you can buy
1-2 years additional support.

   Before you open your wallet I'd suggest looking at a recent
list of updates. Nearly all are for bugs in unsafe MS software.
If you don't use their software then you don't need to fixes.
(MS Office, Sharepoint, Remote Desktop, etc.)

   If you block remote execution and block script in office
programs, email, PDF readers, etc, and use a firewall to block
malware coming in or calling out, then you probably don't need
these kinds of fixes, anyway. Additionally, the majority of bugs
are "privilege elevation". Those are not big risks for the average
person. These are patches for corporate desktops, where
security hasn't been dealt with properly and the biggest
concern is empolyees accessing things they're not supposed to.
Other big issues are "mark of the web". That means a file is
downloaded without beingrestricted. Do you allow mark of the web?
I don't.

   Here's a typical example, from last September, that lists what
was in that month's bug fix.

   However, if you do use Remote Desktop, allow script in office
and PDF files, etc. then monthly patches are pretty much your
only protection. They won't help against 0-days, but they will
help against patched vulneralibities that reckless people are
subject to.

   I don't want to talk you out of patches. If they don't ruin
your system, and if you don't bother understanding the issues,
then they're a good idea. I'm just warning that this is not a black/
white or safe/sorry issue.

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Is anyone contemplating staying on Windows 10 & getting free support to 2032? Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-25 00:55 +0000
  Re: Is anyone contemplating staying on Windows 10 & getting free support to 2032? Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-04-25 07:18 +0200
    Re: Is anyone contemplating staying on Windows 10 & getting free support to 2032? "Jan K." <janicekoziol@nie.ma.spamu.prosze.com> - 2025-04-25 07:08 +0000
    Re: Is anyone contemplating staying on Windows 10 & getting free support to 2032? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-25 08:40 -0400
      Re: Is anyone contemplating staying on Windows 10 & getting free support to 2032? Hank <hankrobins@notspam.uk> - 2025-04-25 22:02 +0200
        Re: Is anyone contemplating staying on Windows 10 & getting free support to 2032? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-25 16:45 -0400
        Re: Is anyone contemplating staying on Windows 10 & getting free support to 2032? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-04-25 17:27 -0400
          Re: Is anyone contemplating staying on Windows 10 & getting free support to 2032? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-25 23:54 -0400
            Re: Is anyone contemplating staying on Windows 10 & getting free support to 2032? Peter <confused@nospam.net> - 2025-04-26 05:55 +0100
              Re: Is anyone contemplating staying on Windows 10 & getting free support to 2032? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-26 05:58 -0400
  Re: Is anyone contemplating staying on Windows 10 & getting free support to 2032? MikeS <mikes@is.invalid> - 2025-04-25 17:16 +0100

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