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Re: Jumplist

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On 4/14/2025 7:15 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
> knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> VanguardLH wrote:
>>
>>> knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I found the jumplist of all program icons very usefull.  These jumplist
>>>> were even on those files in the Program folders.
>>>>
>>>> With the latest update to Windows 10, while the jumplist are still on
>>>> the program icons on the taskbar, they are no longer available on the
>>>> icons in the Start Menu.  (Click square on left end of taskbar.)
>>>>
>>>> Have I inadvertently changed something or did MS remove them
>>>
>>> There are 2 types of entries in jumplists:
>>> - Tasks
>>> - Recent files
>>> - Pinned
>>>
>>> When was your "lastest update to Windows 10"?  I have updates disabled
>>> until I get motivated, have the time to save an image backup, the time
>>> to do the updates, and the time to test the updates (and possibly the
>>> time to restore from the image backup to undo an update rather than try
>>> to rollback).
>>>
>>> I have "Show recently opened items in Jump Lists on Start or the taskbar
>>> in File Explorer Quick Access" disabled.  Do you have it enabled?  In
>>> Settings, go to Personalization -> Start.
>>
>> I have used jumplist since I upgraded to Windows 8 many years ago.  The
>> jump list were never manually backed up, but were there after every
>> update.  They were there for the Program files and the short cuts to
>> those program files.
>>
>> Now the only jumplist are on the shortcuts on the Toolbar.
>> Interestingly on a different computer that I add all of the updates as
>> available the Shortcuts on the Start Menu are still there.   That is
>> what got me to thinking there was a variable somewhere that had been reset.
>>
>> It is one of those things that has always "Just been there".  They were
>> they until one of the most recent updates.  I believe they went AWOL
>> about the update that was installed on March 31, 2025
> 
> When you right-click on a taskbar icon (not in a toolbar in the taskbar,
> but in the taskbar proper), or right-click on a Start Menu icon (in its
> programs list), do you not get anything?  No popup appears when
> right-clicking on them?  Even if you use something like CCleaner that
> will clear jump lists, those are for the Recent lists.  The Tasks lists
> should still be there, like Standard, Scientific, Graphing, Programmer,
> and Date Calulcation under Tasks for Calculator
> 
> By "toolbar" did you mean the Windows Taskbar?  Toolbars added to the
> taskbar don't have jump lists.  When you right-click on icons in
> toolbars added to the taskbar, you get the context menu you see when you
> right-click on an .exe in File Explorer's right-pane.  For example, if
> you had a shortcut for Calculator in a toolbar added to the taskbar,
> right-clicking on it brings up the same context menu that you see when
> right-clicking on calc.exe in C:\Windows\System32 in File Explorer.  For
> icons in the taskbar (for opened or pinned programs), right-click brings
> up the jump list.  For taskbar icons, you say you still get jump lists.
> 
> When right-click on Start menu icons (not talking about icons in the
> tile area, but icons in the Start Menu itself), there are no longer any
> jump lists?  As an example test, right-click on the Calculator entry in
> program list of the Start Menu.  Nothing pops up?
> 
> If you add the Calculator to the tile section of the Start Menu,
> right-clicking brings up the same jump list as for Calculator in the
> program list of Start Menu.
> 
> You say you had jump lists for programs (would that be .exe files?)
> listed in File Explorer.  I have never had any jump lists there.
> Right-clicking on a file in File Explorer always brought up the context
> menu assigned to file objects, not a jump list.  A modified context menu
> is shown in some special folders when right-clicking on a object in
> those folders, like using shell:appsfolder (enter in the address bar of
> File Explorer) to look at the app links, and right-clicking on those.
> 
> In a jump list on a program icon in the taskbar or Start Menu, any
> actions listed there were added by the program during its install.  If
> the "install" were merely copying files, the registry was not updated to
> add task entries to a jump list.  If it is just the Recent section of
> the jump list that is missing, maybe the MRUs (Most Recently Used) lists
> in the registry got deleted, like when using a cleanup tool.  Or, you
> configured Windows not to remember recent entries.  If it just the the
> Recent section of jump lists that disappeared, did you yet check the
> Settings -> Personalization -> Start config dialog mentioned before to
> make sure the "Show recently opened" option is enabled?
> 
> Since the update, and whether it told you or not, have you rebooted your
> computer to have Windows shutdown and restart?  Some users leave their
> computer running 24x7 while some shutdown (not hibernate, but shutdown)
> when done using their computer.  You don't want to hibernate your
> computer, but restart it to make sure any pending renames, moves, or
> deletes get performed for an update.  Updates can leave a fileset for a
> component out of sync where you are trying to use old files with new
> files.  The old files get deleted on the Windows restart forcing use of
> the new files.  That is the purpose of the PendingFileRenameOperations
> data item under HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager
> key in the registry: on a restart, actions defined there are committed
> on a startup of Windows.  An entry listed twice is rename, with no
> second filename is a delete, and a different path is a move.  But the
> actions defined in that registry key don't happen until and during a
> startup of Windows.  Just because Microsoft doesn't tell you to reboot
> doesn't mean you shouldn't.  Sometimes devs are wrong that a mixed
> fileset is okay.
After posting I realized the update may have messed something up in the 
installation.  When I clear the jumplist by turning them off in the 
Personalization / Start/ Jumplist.  They are not cleared.  Since this 
computer is 8 years old and is being replace anytime now, I am not going 
to troubleshoot it.

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Jumplist knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-13 07:57 -0400
  Re: Jumplist Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-13 09:05 -0400
  Re: Jumplist VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-13 16:21 -0500
    Re: Jumplist knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-13 18:33 -0400
      Re: Jumplist VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-14 06:15 -0500
        Re: Jumplist VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-14 06:53 -0500
        Re: Jumplist knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-14 13:36 -0400
          Re: Jumplist VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-14 17:20 -0500
          Re: Jumplist "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-04-15 01:22 -0400

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