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On 4/13/2025 9:08 PM, Frank Miller wrote:
> Newyana2 wrote:
>> On 4/13/2025 4:24 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> [..snip..]
>>> For a while I could use notepad (or wordpad, I can't remember which),
>>> but the thing that allows linux to run some windows programs stopped
>>> working and I didn't care enough to solve the problem.
> [..snip..]
>>       I didn't realize that you were on Linux. A Redcoat
>> in the barracks!
> 
> Get used to it. Microsoft is pushing more and more private users away.
> BTDT and switched 15 years ago.
> 

   I don't know what BTDT means. I gather you're saying
that you haven't used Windows for 15 years.

     I've wondered myself whether I might have to switch.
But I was pleasantly surprised to discover that with some
work, Win10/11 could be quite civilized. I often forget that
I'm no longer on XP. And all of my software still works. My
own VB6 software is also fine. VS6 came out 27 years ago,
and it's still supported on all Windows versions. I've blocked
updates. I installed a firewall. I managed to shut up ALL of
the endless "notification" harassment. I shut down most of
the wasteful crap like Search, removed nearly all apps + Edge...
Nice.

    While I was shocked to see news, gossip, ads and general
nonsense infesting the Win11 Desktop, that cleaned up almost
as easily as Win10. I gave up on getting even security updates
to work on my tweaked systems, but that's OK. I don't generally
allow updates, anyway. And nearly all MS Windows updates are
for broken MS software that I don't use. (Remote Desktop?
MS Office? Certainly not.)

    With Linux, it gets more locked down but at the same time
is essentially designed for Linux experts using console programs.
It's fine if people are using GMail and a browser. One can do
that on a Mac or a Chrome tablet. Many people now do it on
a cellphone. They never needed a computer in the first place.

   Linux as a full replacement for Windows? That doesn't really
work except in thos limited scenarios. Software is sorely lacking
on Linux. Backward compatibility is absent. The religiosity
is an obstacle. And as someone who has intimate knowledge
of Windows, writing software on Windows, and actually using
it to do stuff, Linux is a cold shower of broken functionality...
Like buying a new car and discovering a box of parts in the
trunk that still need to be installed.

   Simply installing software is a nightmare, with indecipherable
package managers in the way and many programs having to be
hacked into the system by hand. Even then, the myriad versions
of Linux create a complicated landscape.

    It took me two days
to get opensnitch firewall installed on Suse15. It's not
a "default app". Though that's progress. For 25 years there were
no usable firewall options. At least opensnitch sort of works.
How do Linux devotees justify such madness? They tell me that
I shouldn't be trying to install non-default programs. It makes
Linux look bad.

   I try Linux every few years, with some very basic demands,
such as being able to get a good firewall and not have to ever
use commandline. It's still a long way from meeting those basic
requirements. Yet at the same time it's getting increasingly
locked down, forcing me to use passwords, insisting that I'm
an employee at a corporate workstation and must operate with
lackey mode file restrictions. (Opensnitch could only be installed
as root, but then I had to reboot into lackey user before opening
the program, or it wouldn't work... Of course, why didn't I know
that? :)

   I suppose that the real issues are actually much bigger. How long
will we use computers in the ways that we do now? Will the
Internet eventually be regulated or reduced to commercial "apps"?
Things are changing fast. Restrictions are going into place, mostly
in the name of security. The open quality of HTML is being replaced
with corporate software, using obfuscated, executable code. For
the average person to have a website is increasingly challenging.
For many people, social media gossip IS the Internet.

   I use a Raspberry Pi to stream movies. For me that's a good use
of Linux. Awhile back I had to install a newer version of Raspbian OS
because it couldn't update Chromium and the old version no longer
worked with streaming. So, not a solution for the average person,
even for the simple job of streaming Netflix. But it does what I need,
and the computer is the size of a deck of cards, which is nice. But I
can't use Linux regularly. And I doubt it will ever be a "power user"
system. It's for sysadmins for running serverside or for custom kiosk
type systems like Android.

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