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Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2

From Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.fortran, comp.lang.c++
Subject Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2
Date 2025-04-10 14:39 -0500
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On 4/9/2025 7:35 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 14:48:12 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> 
>> On 4/9/2025 2:18 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 15:06:06 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>>
>>>> I tried GFortran and GCC with Simply Fortran for a long while but the
>>>> debugging is simply horrible.
>>>
>>> Have you tried using the GNU tools (gfortran, gcc, gdb etc) directly,
>>> leaving out the Simply Fortran middleman?
>>
>> No, we want to get away from compiling and linking directly.  That is
>> what we use with Open Watcom F77 and C++.
>>
>> With over 5,000 subroutines, each in their own file, keeping track of
>> everything is difficult on a good day.
> 
> This is why you have build systems.

I started using the first IDE (interactive development environment) in 
1983 ??? with Turbo Pascal.  $49 IIRC.  It was a simply amazing way of 
doing things.  Nowadays, Visual Studio comes closest to the Turbo Pascal 
IDE but even it is not quite there.  Visual Studios lack of a decent 
Fortran compiler sucks.

I moved back to build systems on the Apollo Domain in 1989 using DSEE 
but it was a downer compared to Turbo Pascal.  It did allow multiple 
user development teams to work together though.  We only had a few 
hallway fights on code conflicts, most were resolved by DSEE.

Lynn

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converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2025-04-08 15:06 -0500
  Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++         program to C++, part 2 Sam <sam@email-scan.com> - 2025-04-08 20:34 -0400
    Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2025-04-09 14:48 -0500
      Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Michael S <already5chosen@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-10 12:11 +0300
        Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 14:31 -0500
  Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-04-08 23:08 -0700
    Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2025-04-09 14:50 -0500
  Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-09 07:18 +0000
    Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2025-04-09 14:48 -0500
      Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-10 00:35 +0000
        Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 14:39 -0500
          Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-10 19:52 +0000
            Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 15:34 -0500
              Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2025-04-11 07:28 +0000
                Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-11 22:08 +0000
      Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 11:37 +0200
        Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 "Steven G. Kargl" <sgk@REMOVEtroutmask.apl.washington.edu> - 2025-04-11 16:00 +0000
          Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2025-04-11 12:25 -0400
            Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 "Steven G. Kargl" <sgk@REMOVEtroutmask.apl.washington.edu> - 2025-04-11 16:57 +0000
          Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 15:44 -0500
          Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 15:47 -0500
            Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 17:59 -0500
              Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-13 23:10 +0000
                Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2025-04-14 23:50 -0500
                Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-15 23:14 +0000
                Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2025-04-15 18:28 -0500
                Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Louis Krupp <lkrupp@invalid.pssw.com.invalid> - 2025-04-15 23:19 -0600
                Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 13:16 -0500
                Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-04-16 07:44 +0000
                Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 "Steven G. Kargl" <sgk@REMOVEtroutmask.apl.washington.edu> - 2025-04-16 17:24 +0000
                Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov> - 2025-04-17 12:24 +0200
                Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 "Steven G. Kargl" <sgk@REMOVEtroutmask.apl.washington.edu> - 2025-04-17 15:06 +0000
                Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 13:17 -0500
          Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-09-21 18:29 -0500
            Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Harold Stevens <wookie@bookworm.localdomain> - 2026-09-22 04:48 -0500
              Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Harold Stevens <wookie@bookworm.localdomain> - 2026-09-22 04:58 -0500
                Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-09-22 15:51 -0500
            Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-09-24 16:14 +0000
              Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2026-09-24 15:14 -0500
                Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2026-09-25 06:29 +0000
              Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-24 23:58 +0000
                Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2026-09-24 17:59 -0700
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  Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 davidd0002@proton.me (David Duffy) - 2025-04-22 04:53 +0000
    Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++ program to C++, part 2 Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2025-04-22 00:14 -0500

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