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Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD

From Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.os.linux
Subject Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD
Date 2025-03-22 04:29 -0400
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On Sat, 3/22/2025 2:58 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 16:24:11 +0100, Joerg Walther wrote:
> 
>> An old Windows Media Center remote worked out of the box, which came
>> very handy.
> 
> What happened to Windows Media Center?
> 
> Killed off by Linux.
> 

Uh, not really.

when it comes to "continuity" on high tech fluff, the
bean counters hate "third party expense". For example,
even if an MPEG2 license from MPEG-LA costs a dollar
a node, that's a "whoa! hold on there" issue for the
bean counters at Microsoft. They want a counter-balancing
income if you do that.

Right now on Windows, it needs a HEVC license from the
Microsoft Store, so that HEIC can be decoded. Rather than
Microsoft pay that out of their own pocket, you buy the
item from the Microsoft Store, and that gives you the
CODEC needed. If they didn't do that, they'd be sued.

Linux doesn't get sued, because they are giving away
the software and not making money from it. the Linux
overhead expense is different.

As "compensation" for Media Center, for a short time,
on the next OS where Media Center was discontinued,
you were given two MPEG2 CODECS "for free". To Microsoft
then, that represented the "value" to them, of the
removed software.

Another expense for Media Center, was the Guide Data feed
per user. Linux doesn't have Guide Data. Professional
Guide Data always costs money. You can license Guide Data
from a TV Network, for around $50K per annum. Then,
you chop that up, and bill individual customers, to make
your $50K back. When Guide Data sources go out of business,
it's because they could not sell enough units at $25 per year.
Microsoft was paying someone else for the Guide Data, while
Media Center was available. I used to have Guide Data downloads
every day on the Test Machine (which was running Media Center
for a while as a demo, so I could note the missing bits
in USENET posts). For example, in Canada, the digital TV
side of Media Center, did not work, unless you got some
files from a private citizen in Canada, who had figured out
how to fix it. That's how I got mine running.

Media Center sank under its own weight. Linux had nothing
to do with the business decisions (overhead costs). If you
buy the WinTV software from Hauppauge, that's another way
to record TV programs. I don't know if the Guide Data for
that still works or not.

   Paul

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    Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-11 23:34 +1100
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    Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-11 15:57 +0100
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        Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-12 00:31 +0000
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        Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-03-14 11:19 -0400
          Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-14 16:47 +0100
            Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-03-14 14:47 -0400
              Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-14 23:39 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-15 07:50 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-15 06:58 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-15 04:02 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-15 22:20 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-15 20:29 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-16 01:18 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-15 22:44 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-16 06:33 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-03-17 08:57 +0000
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                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-17 19:23 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-17 15:21 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-17 22:04 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-17 23:19 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-03-19 16:45 +0200
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                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-19 21:00 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-20 03:04 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-20 22:02 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-21 11:50 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-21 12:21 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-24 00:50 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-24 14:23 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-20 12:24 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-20 22:01 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-21 11:51 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-21 10:16 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 13:52 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-22 14:18 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 23:20 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-24 23:20 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-25 12:55 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-26 00:27 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-03-20 11:07 +0200
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                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-19 14:14 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-19 21:18 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-03-20 10:51 +0200
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-20 12:22 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-03-20 20:35 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-21 11:55 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-03-21 16:24 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-22 06:58 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-22 04:29 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-22 22:00 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-23 02:01 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-24 00:43 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-03-21 16:37 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-22 06:57 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 14:00 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-03-22 09:42 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 15:20 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-22 14:00 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 20:34 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-22 22:02 +0000
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                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-24 00:42 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-17 23:18 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-15 09:08 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-15 13:37 -0400
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