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Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD

From Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.os.linux
Subject Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD
Date 2025-03-15 04:02 -0400
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On Sat, 3/15/2025 2:58 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 23:39:46 -0400, Paul wrote:
> 
>> Windows treats USB sticks with RMB=1, different than sticks with RMB=0.
> 
> Windows doesn’t have the idea that any storage device could be hot-
> pluggable, does it.
> 

???

where do you get these ideas ?

In the BIOS for your computer, there are SATA ports listed.
There are enable/disable buttons (these don't affect Linux,
which is still able to detect drives set in the BIOS as disabled).
In the same interface, are "Hotplug" buttons. Turning this
on, on the port, changes the PNP information, so the
driver will be ready for the dynamic appearance of a
drive in mid-session.

One consequence of connecting a hot-plug (like an ESATA drive),
is the Safely Remove icon, adds the new drive to the removal list.
You can eject a HotPlug drive. Hopefully, this results
in the drive spinning down. You can then physically remove
the drive.

USB sticks are (obviously) HotPlug. For a period of time,
one of the Windows OSes decided to stop listing filesystems
that did not need "Safely Remove" behavior, but the changes
to that OS may have been reversed. I generally handle
all my USB  sticks through that interface (do an Eject or
a Safely Remove, depending on which GUI I'm in at the time),
and it is then safe to unplug.

In windows, if you switch on HotPlug behavior on the
SATA port having the Windows C: partition on it, this
can result in the Windows C: or related materials, showing
up in the Safely Remove menu. Do not panic, as the partition
cannot be removed, since it is "busy", and attempts to
Safely Remove C: will receive a notation indicating
why it cannot be removed.

If you don't like seeing your C: in that Safely Remove
menu, then disable all the HotPlug items in the BIOS.

   Paul

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When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-11 21:52 +1100
  Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-11 13:16 +0100
    Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-11 23:34 +1100
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    Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-11 15:57 +0100
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        Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-12 00:31 +0000
          Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-03-12 13:15 +0000
        Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-03-14 11:19 -0400
          Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-14 16:47 +0100
            Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-03-14 14:47 -0400
              Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-14 23:39 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-15 07:50 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-15 06:58 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-15 04:02 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-15 22:20 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-15 20:29 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-16 01:18 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-15 22:44 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-16 06:33 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> - 2025-03-17 08:57 +0000
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                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-17 19:23 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-17 15:21 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-17 22:04 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-17 23:19 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-03-19 16:45 +0200
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                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-19 21:00 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-20 03:04 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-20 22:02 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-21 11:50 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-21 12:21 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-24 00:50 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-24 14:23 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-20 12:24 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-20 22:01 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-21 11:51 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-21 10:16 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 13:52 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-22 14:18 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 23:20 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-24 23:20 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-25 12:55 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-26 00:27 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-03-20 11:07 +0200
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                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-19 14:14 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-19 21:18 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Anssi Saari <anssi.saari@usenet.mail.kapsi.fi> - 2025-03-20 10:51 +0200
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                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-03-20 20:35 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-21 11:55 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2025-03-21 16:24 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-22 06:58 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-22 04:29 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-22 22:00 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-23 02:01 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-24 00:43 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-03-21 16:37 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-22 06:57 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 14:00 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-03-22 09:42 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 15:20 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-22 14:00 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 20:34 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-22 22:02 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 23:22 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-24 00:42 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-17 23:18 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-15 09:08 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-15 13:37 -0400
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