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Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD

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Subject Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD
Date 2025-03-12 13:15 +0000
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On 2025-03-12 00:31, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
> On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 11:23:08 -0400, David W. Hodgins wrote:
>> 
>> I once experimented with putting a file system on a usb stick with mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdf
>> rather then creating a partition on the device like sdf1.
> 
> Linux doesn’t mind about things like this. Windows does.

Yes, there is something strange about Windows and USB disks, or rather I 
should say sticks, as my comments below definitely applied to the USB 
stick being used, but not AFAIAA to conventional HDs attached via USB. 
When I was preparing my 'One Rescue USB does it all" as previously 
described in this and other ngs ...

SOLVED: One Rescue USB does it all
https://news.novabbs.com/aus+uk/article-flat.php?id=1467&group=uk.comp.os.linux#1467

... I found that Windows behaved most oddly with a USB stick having a 
partition table.  I meant to post separately about it at the time, but 
once I'd got a USB stick that worked, I forgot about this problem 
encountered en voyage, so now have to rely on ageing memory. AFAICR, the 
issue I encountered went like this ...

As described in the original thread, I eventually created a 256GB USB 
stick with partitions as follows ...

1     8GB    FAT32    Win PE + Ghost + Product Key Scanner
2     8GB    FAT32    Clonezilla
3    32GB    Ext4     XUbuntu 22
4    Rest    NTFS     Ghost Image & Installation ISO Files.

... however, on the first attempt, partitions 1 & 2 were swapped around, 
and Windows didn't seem to like this at all, and wouldn't let me copy 
stuff to Partition #2, then the Win PE partition.  When, unwisely, I 
allowed Windows to 'fix' the problems it encountered with the disk  - 
it said the disk needed to be formatted, and, thinking it was going to 
format just Partition #2 as FAT32, I allowed it to do so, it completely 
wrecked my work thus far.  The partition table previously created with 
GPartEd under Ubuntu 22 was completely lost, and I was left with just a 
USB stick with one large 'partition' covering the entire disk.  When 
back in Ubuntu 22 I examined the result before starting again, it seemed 
to me that Windows had formatted the USB stick as though it were a large 
floppy disk, without a partition table.

Even now, when I examine the working Emergency USB stick, this time 
partitioned exactly as in the table above, in the Disk Manager console 
in Windows, it recognises only Partition #1 as being FAT32, giving it a 
drive letter; it doesn't recognise Partition #2 as being FAT32 and 
therefore doesn't give it a drive letter.  I think that's why I ended up 
swapping the first two partitions around to the way they are now, so 
that at least I could copy stuff to the Win PE partition from within 
Windows.

Que?

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When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-11 21:52 +1100
  Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-11 13:16 +0100
    Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-03-11 23:34 +1100
  Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-03-11 08:21 -0400
    Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-11 15:57 +0100
      Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-03-11 11:23 -0400
        Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-12 00:31 +0000
          Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-03-12 13:15 +0000
        Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-03-14 11:19 -0400
          Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-14 16:47 +0100
            Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-03-14 14:47 -0400
              Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-14 23:39 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2025-03-15 07:50 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-15 06:58 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-15 04:02 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-15 22:20 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-15 20:29 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-16 01:18 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-15 22:44 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-16 06:33 +0000
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                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-17 19:23 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-17 15:21 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-17 22:04 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-17 23:19 +0000
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                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-19 21:00 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-20 03:04 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-20 22:02 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-21 11:50 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-21 12:21 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-24 00:50 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-24 14:23 +0100
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                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-20 22:01 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-21 11:51 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-21 10:16 -0400
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                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-22 14:18 -0400
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                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-24 23:20 +0000
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                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-26 00:27 +0000
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                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-22 06:58 +0000
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                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-22 22:00 +0000
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                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-24 00:43 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-03-21 16:37 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-22 06:57 +0000
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 14:00 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2025-03-22 09:42 -0400
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-22 15:20 +0100
                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-22 14:00 -0400
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                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-22 22:02 +0000
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                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-24 00:42 +0000
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                Re: When I back-up .... Coping my Entire Internal HD to an external HD Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-15 13:37 -0400
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