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Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification

From AJL <noemail@none.com>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification
Date 2025-03-07 09:34 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On 3/7/25 12:53 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
>AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
>
>> My sensitive apps only require ONE 2FA login (including Walmart). Once
>> the host device is blessed it can be set so that no more 2FA is
>> required. So like Carlos I seldom need SMS 2FA. Only the apps on my
>> new toys for the first time. Course if I was paranoid I could set it
>> to ask on every login. But I don't. Apparently you do??
>
>I avoid web-centric site-specific apps, like apps just for one site;
>e.g., Walmart, bank, Home Depot, Delta (airline).  Instead I visit them
>in a web browser.  One app that does all instead one app that does one
>site.  Maybe if I used site-specific apps then I'd get 2FA far less
>often, or not at all.  I tend to be very frugal as to what gets
>installed on my smartphone.  I'm unlike a lot of smartphone users that
>install any app just because there is one.

IMO specific apps are much easier to use on a phone or tablet than a
 browser. But the Android browser I use, Chrome, also remembers the device
 for each site and thus only one 2FA per site I use is required as in my
 apps. YMMV depending on the site I suppose but all mine be it app or
 browser only need one 2FA per device if so set.

>Does any web browser store 2FA codes for reuse on login? 

The only browser I use for 2FA is Chrome on everything: Android, W11, and
 Chrome OS stuff. It works the same on all. Only one 2FA per app/device
 unless set otherwise.


>Perhaps DOM
>Storage (aka site data) gets used for that.  I doubt any secure site is
>going to use cookies.  I configure my web browser (Firefox) to purge
>*all* its locally cached data on exit 

I do the same with my Firefox browsers. But of course they won't remember
 anything including 2FA being set that way. If you get tired of redoing 2FA
 I suggest you get one browser just for that purpose.


>as a countermeasure to tracking,
>and up my privacy, and tweak the web browser to improve security.
>Firefox on Android permits extensions like uBlock Origin.  Chrome on
>Android does not allow any extensions.  

True. That's why I use apps.

>As for web-centric apps, has there been any independent audits on each
>one to determine their login security, and secure local files storing
>any user data?  Don't most use the accounts stored in Android itself, so
>those get reused.  I don't think Android is storing any 2FA codes or
>other token in the accounts stored in Android.

Dunno. I put my trust in the individual apps. If I can't trust my bank,
 investment, utilities, Walmart, etc, what can I trust? Walmart does pretty
 good BTW. It lets me buy stuff without a new 2FA each time but to reorder
 prescriptions from the pharmacy section it requires a pin to get in...

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Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-02 14:28 +0100
  Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-02 14:48 +0100
  Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-03-02 16:41 +0000
    Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2025-03-02 17:45 +0000
    Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2025-03-04 02:41 +0100
      Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-03-03 21:23 -0700
        Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2025-03-04 07:11 +0000
          Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-04 13:23 -0600
        Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-04 13:38 +0000
          Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-03-04 09:22 -0700
          Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-04 19:37 -0600
      Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-04 07:05 +0000
      Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-06 11:39 +0100
        Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-06 10:06 -0600
          Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-07 14:39 +0100
            Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-07 15:57 -0600
  Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-03 04:05 -0600
    Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-03 04:18 -0600
      Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-03 11:26 +0100
    Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-03 11:18 +0100
      Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-03 11:27 +0100
      Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-03 04:39 -0600
        Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-03 11:48 +0100
          Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-03 13:45 -0600
            Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-03 21:28 +0100
              Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-03 21:58 -0600
        Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-03 14:20 +0000
          Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2025-03-04 07:28 +0000
            Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-04 12:18 -0600
              Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-04 19:42 +0100
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-04 13:53 -0600
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-04 20:34 +0000
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-04 19:45 -0600
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-05 03:48 +0100
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-05 14:43 -0600
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-05 23:14 +0100
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-06 00:50 -0600
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-06 12:38 +0100
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-06 15:46 -0600
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-06 23:22 +0100
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-06 21:21 -0600
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-03-07 03:49 +0000
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-07 01:53 -0600
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-03-07 09:34 +0000
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-07 10:37 +0100
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-07 10:34 +0100
                Re: Phones and apps forced on you Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-08 18:18 +0000
                Re: Phones and apps forced on you "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-09 14:52 +0100
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-07 10:00 +0000
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-06 15:00 +0000
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-06 19:14 +0100
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-06 15:59 -0600
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-07 09:44 +0000
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-05 11:23 +0000
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-06 07:51 +0000
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2025-03-06 08:02 +0000
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-06 16:14 -0600
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-04 22:37 +0100
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-04 19:49 -0600
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-05 03:44 +0100
              Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-04 18:51 +0000
            Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2025-03-07 08:08 +0000
              Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-07 10:42 +0000
    Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2025-03-07 22:45 +0800

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