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Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification
Date 2025-03-03 11:48 +0100
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On 2025-03-03 11:39, VanguardLH wrote:
> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-03-03 11:05, VanguardLH wrote:
>>> "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Just read yesterday that Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit
>>>> codes for verification of gmail account, but instead will use QR codes.
>>>> This is to avoid scams in which the victim is told to tell the fraudster
>>>> the number he just received on the phone.
>>>>
>>>> I have a source but it is in Spanish:
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.20minutos.es/tecnologia/ciberseguridad/novedad-google-luchar-contra-estafas-adios-autenticacion-digitos-sms-5685840/>
>>>>
>>>> Oh, English here:
>>>> <https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2025/02/26/google-confirms-gmail-to-ditch-sms-code-authentication/>
>>>
>>> Doesn't make sense.  Say I'm using a desktop PC.  Nope, it doesn't have
>>> a cellular or landline phone line to it (it cannot do telephony) which
>>> is typical of desktop PCs.  I want to login to my Gmail account.  How
>>> are they going to send an SMS text to my desktop PC?  Not everyone
>>> logging into Gmail is using a smartphone to do so.
>>
>> Tough luck. The SMS is sent to the phone that is registered with the
>> account.
> 
> What was the point of Google (and Microsoft) fucking up OAUTH, a
> protocol, to screw into the OAUTH2, a framework, for authenticated
> logins?

2FA.

> 
> Whether on my Android phone or Windows desktop using OAUTH2 email apps,
> or using a web browser with HTTPS, I've never received an SMS text (on
> my phone) to complete a login to Gmail.  If they replace SMS texts with
> QR codes (delivered how?), well, I wasn't getting SMS texts before, so I
> won't be getting QR codes, either.

I have.

> 
> If the QR codes are sent via SMS texts, instead of getting a string of
> numbers the users get a QR code.  Um, just what is a QR code?  Scan one
> to see it is just embedded text.  Maybe Google is assuming no one has a
> QR scanner app on their phone to decode what text it contains.

This is undefined. Probably you get a QR graphic in the computer, and 
you have to take a photo of it with your phone, inside some application 
they still have to tell us.

> 
> Once the QR image arrives via SMS text on the phone, what the hell am I
> supposed to do with it?  Not like I can point the phone's cameras at the
> phone's screen to read the QR image to decode into the text within.  So,
> whatever is attempting the login must incorporate a QR scanner that can
> look at QR images in SMS texts?

See above.

> 
>>> However, my IMAP e-mail client using OAUTH2 to login never sends me
>>> anything to further authenticate the login.
>>>
>>> To where is Google going to send their QR code when I use a web browser
>>> to connect and log into https://www.gmail.com?
>>
>> To your registered smartphone.
> 
> And I'm somehow supposedly to magically scan a QR code in an SMS text
> sent to my phone to get it to my desktop?  Unlike a numeric string, I
> cannot transcribe a QR code into whatever is the text within it.

See above.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.

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Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-02 14:28 +0100
  Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-02 14:48 +0100
  Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-03-02 16:41 +0000
    Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2025-03-02 17:45 +0000
    Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2025-03-04 02:41 +0100
      Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-03-03 21:23 -0700
        Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2025-03-04 07:11 +0000
          Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-04 13:23 -0600
        Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-04 13:38 +0000
          Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-03-04 09:22 -0700
          Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-04 19:37 -0600
      Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-04 07:05 +0000
      Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-06 11:39 +0100
        Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-06 10:06 -0600
          Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2025-03-07 14:39 +0100
            Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-07 15:57 -0600
  Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-03 04:05 -0600
    Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-03 04:18 -0600
      Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-03 11:26 +0100
    Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-03 11:18 +0100
      Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2025-03-03 11:27 +0100
      Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-03 04:39 -0600
        Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-03 11:48 +0100
          Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-03 13:45 -0600
            Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-03 21:28 +0100
              Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-03 21:58 -0600
        Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-03 14:20 +0000
          Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2025-03-04 07:28 +0000
            Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-04 12:18 -0600
              Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-04 19:42 +0100
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-04 13:53 -0600
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-04 20:34 +0000
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-04 19:45 -0600
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-05 03:48 +0100
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-05 14:43 -0600
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-05 23:14 +0100
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-06 00:50 -0600
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-06 12:38 +0100
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-06 15:46 -0600
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-06 23:22 +0100
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-06 21:21 -0600
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-03-07 03:49 +0000
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-07 01:53 -0600
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2025-03-07 09:34 +0000
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-07 10:37 +0100
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-07 10:34 +0100
                Re: Phones and apps forced on you Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-03-08 18:18 +0000
                Re: Phones and apps forced on you "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-09 14:52 +0100
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-07 10:00 +0000
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-06 15:00 +0000
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-06 19:14 +0100
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-06 15:59 -0600
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-07 09:44 +0000
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-05 11:23 +0000
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-03-06 07:51 +0000
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2025-03-06 08:02 +0000
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-06 16:14 -0600
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-04 22:37 +0100
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-03-04 19:49 -0600
                Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-03-05 03:44 +0100
              Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-04 18:51 +0000
            Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Dave Royal <dave@dave123royal.com> - 2025-03-07 08:08 +0000
              Re: Google will no longer send SMSs with six digit codes for verification Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-07 10:42 +0000
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