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| From | Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | uk.comp.sys.mac |
| Subject | Re: iCloud or their cloud? |
| Date | 2025-03-05 08:14 +0100 |
| Organization | Camembert Normand au Lait Cru |
| Message-ID | <vq8tjo$1298v$1@solani.org> (permalink) |
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On 05.03.25 06:46, Chris Ridd wrote: > On 25/02/2025 16:56, Jörg Lorenz wrote: >> I use it outside of the UK since it exists. Appl's reaction is the only >> way they could go. >> >> The alarm bells are ringing extremely loud. It sets a precedent for >> other Gestapo-style governments in the anglosaxon world namely NZ and AU. > > It also only takes *one* of the Five Eyes countries to get Apple to > implement this, and then all the 4 just make an internal request to get > the data for their Person Of Interest. > > I wonder which other services have received the same order. It won't > just be Apple, though maybe they got the honour of being first, it'll > realistically be Google, Samsung (assuming they differ from Android), > maybe MS, and obviously the Signal/Telegram/Whatsapp mobs. So far it seems that only Apple is concerned because only Apple is offering real E2E-encryption for many but not all services (for technical reasons). The large messengers seem not affected yet. It would politically backfire too much. But that can change quickly or they have already a way to read everything. The fact that these services are not allowed to communicate any interference by a government it is not really clear where the taxpayer and voter stands at the moment. This fact alone is KGB- or Gestapo-style. -- "De gustibus non est disputandum."
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