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Re: Trans "ally" creep knows developer is a male, refers to him as "they" anyway

From RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Trans "ally" creep knows developer is a male, refers to him as "they" anyway
Date 2025-02-08 07:43 +0000
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On 2025-02-08, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2025-02-07 1:14 p.m., RonB wrote:
>> On 2025-02-07, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> On 2025-02-07 3:16 a.m., RonB wrote:
>>>> On 2025-02-06, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-02-06 1:25 p.m., Joel wrote:
>>>>>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2025-02-06 12:30 p.m., Joel wrote:
>>>>>>>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-06 11:47 a.m., DFS wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://news.itsfoss.com/running-linux-in-pdf/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Early in the article and later notes the software developer is named
>>>>>>>>>> Allen, but never once says he or him.  Instead says 'they' several times.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Believe you me, I blasted this creep.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And you've just gotten an answer as to why I went back to Windows. The
>>>>>>>>> experience is extremely disheartening. I don't want to use Linux if it
>>>>>>>>> gives these child predators the impression that I approve of them in any
>>>>>>>>> way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why are you making such a big deal of it, though?  I swear, if I had
>>>>>>>> to judge every business by some grandiose moral code, I'd starve. It's
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because I have principles. I have yet to buy any Gillette products since
>>>>>>> they made that idiotic commercials shaming men for being men. It's been
>>>>>>> years, but I don't believe they've earned my trust back.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you're judging the product by the content of television
>>>>>> advertising.  I just don't operate in that world, TV commercials are
>>>>>> in one ear and out the other, mostly.  Then again, I'll never forget
>>>>>> seeing the 1997 Spice Girls Pepsi commercial.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've gotten to the point that I only want to purchase the best product,
>>>>> regardless of politics. For me, that's usually Apple. However, I am not
>>>>> a fan of not being able to upgrade my machine or change its components.
>>>>> Going from the 2TB encrypted nvme and 32GB of RAM I currently have to
>>>>> any Mac would feel like a significant downgrade. Apparently, their M3 is
>>>>> not that much faster than my 5900HS either.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a lot easier to just accept the things you cannot change, as they say
>>>>>>>> in 12 Step, it's like you have Linux as an option, and it's competing
>>>>>>>> rather well with the commercial OSes, but some people involved in
>>>>>>>> producing distros probably have views I'd disagree with. Does that
>>>>>>>> make their code not work?  Do I have to know about all their views to
>>>>>>>> use their product?  It's not sensible because there's very finite
>>>>>>>> choice in a desktop OS, GNU/Linux is the only platform that delivers
>>>>>>>> something like people are accustomed to, without being paid/
>>>>>>>> proprietary.  I can tolerate the programmers/developers/coders having
>>>>>>>> their political views.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the views of the programmers are that homosexuals need to be treated
>>>>>>> better than heterosexuals, that the black community should get
>>>>>>> preferential treatment in the hiring process or that saying something
>>>>>>> like "White lives matter" is racist, I don't want to touch their products.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Business is business, I will do business with just about anyone.
>>>>>> Waffle House is known to support right-wing politics, yeah OK but they
>>>>>> make a fuckin' bangin' omelet, so maybe I'll just have to give a few
>>>>>> pennies, indirectly, to the prez.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we're in the same boat as far as technology goes. I'd like to go
>>>>> to Linux exclusively but I have to admit that the events of the past few
>>>>> years have me rethinking that since it looks like wokism, not
>>>>> innovation, is going to be the priority for open-source going forward.
>>>>
>>>> You assume that the Woke, political loudmouths in Open Source are the ones
>>>> driving open source innovation. They're more likely the drones. The backbone
>>>> of open source are developers who just develop are are doing it after coming
>>>> home from a day job — they don't have time for the brain-dead Woke bullshit.
>>>>
>>>> Woke bullshit doesn't produce an OS, developers do.
>>>
>>> And they are actively liquidating the developers who don't subscribe to
>>> this idiocy.
>> 
>> Or so you assume. Obviously you still don't "get" Open Source. You can't
>> "liquidate" developers because they can always fork the project. This is not
>> Microsoft or Apple, where it's "their way or the highway."
>
> You're right, but how long do you think conservative developers will 
> stick around when they see that they're being demonized left and right 
> whenever they submit to a project? Look at what they did to the guy who 
> was actively improving Thunderbird. He had to fork the program to 
> Betterbird just to be able to keep improving the software. Who knows if 
> he'll continue doing so if so few of us donate to help him out. Even 
> after they fork, there's a good chance that one of the people working 
> with them will turn on them because of some political garbage just like 
> they did with Lunduke. Heck, a few years ago, while he was exclusively 
> working on software for a living, people turned on him because some of 
> his code was proprietary. He made everything open only to find that few 
> if any people actually bothered to donate to help him out. They would 
> rather see him starve and get free code than even consider sending him a 
> few bucks for his work.

Lunduke seems to be someone whose ego is easily bruised. But I may be making 
assumptions that aren't true. I have no idea what he was developing, 
however. 

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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Trans "ally" creep knows developer is a male, refers to him as "they" anyway DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-02-06 11:47 -0500
  Re: Trans "ally" creep knows developer is a male, refers to him as "they" anyway Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-06 11:54 -0500
    Re: Trans "ally" creep knows developer is a male, refers to him as "they" anyway DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-02-06 18:41 -0500
      Re: Trans "ally" creep knows developer is a male, refers to him as "they" anyway CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-06 19:30 -0500
        Re: Trans "ally" creep knows developer is a male, refers to him as "they" anyway RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-02-07 08:18 +0000
          Re: Trans "ally" creep knows developer is a male, refers to him as "they" anyway CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-07 09:22 -0500
            Re: Trans "ally" creep knows developer is a male, refers to him as "they" anyway RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-02-07 18:20 +0000
              Re: Trans "ally" creep knows developer is a male, refers to him as "they" anyway CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-07 20:27 -0500
                Re: Trans "ally" creep knows developer is a male, refers to him as "they" anyway RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 07:46 +0000
  Re: Trans "ally" creep knows developer is a male, refers to him as "they" anyway CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-06 12:14 -0500
    Re: Trans "ally" creep knows developer is a male, refers to him as "they" anyway Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-06 12:30 -0500
      Re: Trans "ally" creep knows developer is a male, refers to him as "they" anyway CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-06 13:00 -0500
        Re: Trans "ally" creep knows developer is a male, refers to him as "they" anyway Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-02-06 13:25 -0500
          Re: Trans "ally" creep knows developer is a male, refers to him as "they" anyway rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-02-06 20:58 +0000
          Re: Trans "ally" creep knows developer is a male, refers to him as "they" anyway CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-06 18:09 -0500
            Re: Trans "ally" creep knows developer is a male, refers to him as "they" anyway RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-02-07 08:16 +0000
              Re: Trans "ally" creep knows developer is a male, refers to him as "they" anyway CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-07 09:19 -0500
                Re: Trans "ally" creep knows developer is a male, refers to him as "they" anyway RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-02-07 18:14 +0000
                Re: Trans "ally" creep knows developer is a male, refers to him as "they" anyway CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-07 20:24 -0500
                Re: Trans "ally" creep knows developer is a male, refers to him as "they" anyway RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 07:43 +0000
    Re: Trans "ally" creep knows developer is a male, refers to him as "they" anyway RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-02-07 08:06 +0000
      Re: Trans "ally" creep knows developer is a male, refers to him as "they" anyway CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-07 09:18 -0500
        Re: Trans "ally" creep knows developer is a male, refers to him as "they" anyway RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-02-07 18:11 +0000
          Re: Trans "ally" creep knows developer is a male, refers to him as "they" anyway CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-02-07 20:18 -0500
            Re: Trans "ally" creep knows developer is a male, refers to him as "they" anyway RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 07:40 +0000

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