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Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it??

From Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.os.linux
Subject Re: "Tether"?? What is it and how might I achieve it??
Date 2025-01-30 22:05 +1100
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On 30/01/2025 7:21 pm, Paul wrote:
> On Thu, 1/30/2025 2:39 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
>> This post is cross-posted to both alt.comp.os.windows-11 and alt.os.linux to increase my chances of getting an answer.
>>
>> Some of you may have read that my HP 6730b Dual-boot Win7/Linux Laptop has died/is dieing so I've resorted to this HP Win-11 Desktop that I am tring to get up and running.
>>
>> However, in updating the Win-11 OS and all the bits and pieces of this HP 24-cr0002a 24 All-in-One N100 8GB/256GB Desktop Computer, I've used up all my monthly Data allowance ..... which doesn't get renewed until about 20 Feb so, until then my download speed is limited to about 35kB/sec.
>>
>> However .... (as I was trying to drift off to sleep last night), I thought "What about if I use a PrePaid chip (like I use in my Mobilephone), could I connect via the chip in a USB dongle (after disabling my Wi-Fi)??"
>>
>> Back in the day (2000 - 2010'ish), I used to connect via a USB dongle so it must be possible ....
>>
>> But, then I thought .... If I can connect like this using a chip in a Dongle .... when I connect my Mobile Phone (via USB to9 recharge my phone) to my Computer can't I effectively use my mobile phone, using it's Data allocation, to do my Web Browsing??
>>
>> Is this what 'they' call "Tethering"??
>>
>> If so how, on this HP Win11 Computer, do I disable Wi-Fi and then enable USB Tethering??
>>
>> TIA.
> 
> Assuming you have run out of bandwidth to use at home, if
> I was in a temporary lurch, I would head to the Public Library.
> For example, our central branch has 30 or so PCs, and a good
> Internet connection, and can be booked for one hour sessions.
> The computer reboots between sessions, wiping out the previous
> customer URLs and accessed information. The computer is "clean"
> at the beginning of each session. If you need to do research,
> that's how you do it on a budget.
> 
> *******  Host End *******
> 
> https://www.lifewire.com/set-up-usb-tethering-windows-10-4584419
> 
>      What to Know
> 
>      First, connect your Android or iPhone to your computer with a USB cable.
> 
>      From the Settings app on your phone, turn on USB tethering (Android)
>      or Personal Hotspot (iPhone).
> 
>      Note: Depending on your mobile carrier, you may be charged a fee for
>            creating a hotspot. Check with your carrier if you're not sure.
> 
>      Open your phone's Settings app and go to
> 
>           Network & internet > Hotspot & tethering (Android) or
>           Cellular > Personal Hotspot (iPhone).
> 
>      Tap USB tethering to tether your Android, or
>      Personal Hotspot to set up your iPhone as a hotspot.
> 
>      Your PC should now be able to access the internet through your phone's internet connection.
> 
> ******* Guest End *******
> 
> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/usb-tethering-not-working/4237f469-e9ce-48bc-be8e-f65a3afc6009
> 
>     1. Open Device Manager
> 
>     2. Go to Network Adapters
> 
>     3. Right click "Remote NDIS based Internet Sharing Device" and select "Update"  <=== I wanted this info, to show you
>                                                                                          which device aids in the USB tether
>                                                                                          on the Guest end.
> 
>        https://filestore.community.support.microsoft.com/api/images/6a7b86ad-41ab-4b38-ba0e-36610d55bf10?upload=true
> 
>     *******
> 
>     4. Choose "Browse my Computer for driver software"
> 
>     5. Select "Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer"
> 
>     6. Uncheck "show compatible hardware"
> 
>     7. In the manufacturer section, select Microsoft
> 
>     8. Choose the "Remote NDIS Compatible Device" model and click Next
> 
> This suggests that the phone port, puts out a declaration that it
> follows a particular USB class standard. It suggests that both
> OSes (Windows and Linux) can identify the phone declaring itself
> as a network device, and load a driver for it.
> 
> Note that phone data is expensive, every bit as expensive as the
> satellite data you ran out of. Be careful with the pricing!
> Extensions past a bandwidth limit, can be billed in "blocks" of bandwidth,
> and are especially expensive if you are roaming and traveling
> in a foreign country. The bill can be a couple thousand bucks,
> even for the simplest things like allowing a phone to "use data"
> while in the foreign country. Let alone actually tether to
> your laptop for example.
> 
> Even if a SIM is on offer, I can't see how anyone is going to
> offer "gobs of data for pennies". This is not a service like
> making phone calls, where the call duration is short. If I were
> to give a person a tether for free, they'd leaving it running
> 24 hours a day, and download movies until the phone caught fire :-)
> 
> Wifi can be disabled with Airplane Mode, which disables the radio(s) on the PC.
> 
> And on Windows, you can try this, and on the next reboot, it won't sniff
> around the existing interfaces for a network connection. That is just
> changing one of the services in services.msc to disabled.
> 
>     sc.exe config netsetupsvc start=disabled
> 
> On Linux, this would be managed (at least partially) in Network Manager.
> Usually on the Task Bar area somewhere, or in the upper-right corner.
> 
>    Paul
> 
Thank you, Paul, for your detailed explanation. I've saved it so I can 
re-read it at my leisure.

Your comment about phone data being expensive is noted .... but, as I 
get a bit of data included in my PAYG plan, I might as well make use of 
it if I can. (Normally it just expires each time I renew the $35 per 
month phone contract.

I'll see how I go!!

Thank you.

-- 
Daniel70

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