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Re: Turning off the Log-in Password

From wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Turning off the Log-in Password
Date 2025-01-28 09:59 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <vna9p4$1op2j$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On 27/01/2025 11:16, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2025-01-26 20:46, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>> Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
>>>> Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Herbert Kleebauer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Just hold down the <SHIFT> key while you click on
>>>>>> the restart button in the start menu of Windows. Then
>>>>>> you will get the boot menu on next startup.
>>>>>
>>>>>      Well, on my laptop, that gets into the *UEFI* software, *not* into the
>>>>> *BIOS*.
>>>>
>>>> If you have a UEFI, that's instead of a BIOS.
>>>
>>>     No, one has UEFI *and* BIOS. But you've put me/us on the right path.
>>> Read on.
>>
>> Nono. There is only UEFI. Forget the name "BIOS". Even if it looks like
>> the BIOS, croaks like the BIOS, walks like the BIOS, it is no longer
>> BIOS, it is part of the UEFI.
> 
> [You probably hadn't read my "Correction:" with my further
> clarification.]
> 
>    As I said in the part you snipped, the (firmware of the) *computer*
> (in this case an HP Pavilion 15-eh2560nd laptop) *says* "BIOS" in the
> relevant menus. And, to add insult to injury, when the firmware was
> (forcefully) updated, the screen said:
> 
>    "(hp)				HP BIOS Update
> 
> 	The System BIOS is being updated. The update will take a few
> 	minutes to complete.
> 
> 	Do not shut down your computer during the process. [In red.]
> 
> 	Writing new BIOS image
> 
> 	Block NNN / 256
> 
> 			Progress: NN% [blue on light-grey progress bar]"
> 
>    So just on this one screen, it said "BIOS" three times.
> 
>    Also the support page says "BIOS-System Firmware" and only talks about
> "BIOS" and doesn't even mention UEFI.
> 
> <https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/hp-pavilion-15-laptop-pc-15-eh2000/model/2101006263?sku=693B1EA>
> 
>    Probably the term "BIOS" is used, because that's a known term, much
> more known than "UEFI". And if we want to be pedantic, even the term
> "BIOS" was/is wrong, because it's much more than the Basic Input Output
> System part.
> 
>    So, let's put all silly semantics aside and let's settle on 'the BIOS
> part of the UEFI'. Agreed?
> 
> [Paul, what is your take on this?]
> 

The problem is three manufacturers can call the same thing by three 
different names & only those that work with computers/mobile phones etc 
are likely to know that they are the same.
Then along come the home users who start arguing the differences.


-- 
Regards
wasbit

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  Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-25 12:31 +0000
    Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-01-25 14:35 +0100
    Re: Turning off the Log-in Password "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-25 14:43 +0100
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            Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-28 13:48 +0000
              Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-01 22:26 +1100
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                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-01 16:10 +0000
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-01 17:44 +0000
    Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-26 23:01 +1100
      Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-26 14:54 +0000
        Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-01-26 17:55 +0100
          Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-26 18:19 +0000
            Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-26 18:33 +0000
              Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-26 19:46 +0000
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-26 20:11 +0000
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-26 23:04 +0100
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-27 11:16 +0000
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-27 13:15 -0500
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-27 18:49 +0000
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-27 14:33 -0500
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> - 2025-01-28 09:59 +0000
        Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-29 00:04 +1100
          Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-28 14:33 +0000
            Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-28 18:59 -0500
              Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-29 11:06 +0000
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-29 06:24 -0500
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-29 12:35 +0100
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-29 13:17 +0000
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-29 14:38 +0100
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-29 15:29 +0000
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-29 13:59 -0500
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-01 14:59 +0100
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-29 13:12 +0000
            Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-01 22:58 +1100
              Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-01 16:21 +0000
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-02 22:10 +1100
  Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-25 14:44 +0000
  Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-29 11:51 -0500
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