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Re: Turning off the Log-in Password

From Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Turning off the Log-in Password
Date 2025-01-27 11:16 +0000
Organization NOYB
Message-ID <vn7te5.83s.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> (permalink)
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Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2025-01-26 20:46, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
> >> Frank Slootweg wrote:
> >>
> >>> Herbert Kleebauer wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Just hold down the <SHIFT> key while you click on
> >>>> the restart button in the start menu of Windows. Then
> >>>> you will get the boot menu on next startup.
> >>>
> >>>     Well, on my laptop, that gets into the *UEFI* software, *not* into the
> >>> *BIOS*.
> >>
> >> If you have a UEFI, that's instead of a BIOS.
> > 
> >    No, one has UEFI *and* BIOS. But you've put me/us on the right path.
> > Read on.
> 
> Nono. There is only UEFI. Forget the name "BIOS". Even if it looks like 
> the BIOS, croaks like the BIOS, walks like the BIOS, it is no longer 
> BIOS, it is part of the UEFI.

[You probably hadn't read my "Correction:" with my further
clarification.]

  As I said in the part you snipped, the (firmware of the) *computer*
(in this case an HP Pavilion 15-eh2560nd laptop) *says* "BIOS" in the
relevant menus. And, to add insult to injury, when the firmware was
(forcefully) updated, the screen said:

  "(hp)				HP BIOS Update

	The System BIOS is being updated. The update will take a few
	minutes to complete.

	Do not shut down your computer during the process. [In red.]

	Writing new BIOS image

	Block NNN / 256

			Progress: NN% [blue on light-grey progress bar]"

  So just on this one screen, it said "BIOS" three times.

  Also the support page says "BIOS-System Firmware" and only talks about
"BIOS" and doesn't even mention UEFI.

<https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/hp-pavilion-15-laptop-pc-15-eh2000/model/2101006263?sku=693B1EA>

  Probably the term "BIOS" is used, because that's a known term, much
more known than "UEFI". And if we want to be pedantic, even the term
"BIOS" was/is wrong, because it's much more than the Basic Input Output
System part.

  So, let's put all silly semantics aside and let's settle on 'the BIOS
part of the UEFI'. Agreed?

[Paul, what is your take on this?]

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  Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-25 12:31 +0000
    Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-01-25 14:35 +0100
    Re: Turning off the Log-in Password "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-25 14:43 +0100
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            Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-28 13:48 +0000
              Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-01 22:26 +1100
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-01 11:40 +0000
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-01 16:10 +0000
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-02-01 17:44 +0000
    Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-26 23:01 +1100
      Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-26 14:54 +0000
        Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-01-26 17:55 +0100
          Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-26 18:19 +0000
            Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-26 18:33 +0000
              Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-26 19:46 +0000
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-26 20:11 +0000
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-26 23:04 +0100
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-27 11:16 +0000
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-27 13:15 -0500
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-27 18:49 +0000
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-27 14:33 -0500
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> - 2025-01-28 09:59 +0000
        Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-29 00:04 +1100
          Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-28 14:33 +0000
            Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-28 18:59 -0500
              Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-29 11:06 +0000
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-29 06:24 -0500
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-29 12:35 +0100
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-29 13:17 +0000
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-29 14:38 +0100
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-29 15:29 +0000
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-29 13:59 -0500
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-02-01 14:59 +0100
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-29 13:12 +0000
            Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-01 22:58 +1100
              Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-02-01 16:21 +0000
                Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-02 22:10 +1100
  Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-25 14:44 +0000
  Re: Turning off the Log-in Password Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-29 11:51 -0500
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