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| From | Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-11 |
| Subject | Re: Copilot?? |
| Date | 2025-01-27 07:41 -0500 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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On 1/27/2025 3:22 AM, ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
> Newyana2 wrote on 1/26/25 8:13 PM:
>>
>> I saw an interesting report that MS plans to start charging
>> 30% more for MSO 365, to pay for AI. Apparently people have no
>> choice but to pay for it, whether they want it or not. So MS
>> must have big plans for big bucks with AI.
>>
>> https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/work-life/the-microsoft-365-copilot-launch-was-a-total-disaster/
>
>
> It's the first price increase in 12 yrs
> Office 365 Home Premium for 5 devices in 2013 - $99.99 per year
> Office 365 Home(rename of Premium) for 5 devices in 2014 - $99.99/year
> M365 Family(O365 Home rename) for *6* devices - 2017-2024 - $99.99/yr
> M365 Family(soon to be M365 Co-Pilot in 2025 => $129.99
>
> ===> $100 in 2013 purchasing power requires $135 in 2025
>
> i.e. Just more conspiracy theory, news/media/opinion trying to correlate
> a price increase independent of economics and inflation.
>
I wondered how long it would take you to add to the shilling,
dear Winston Borg.
If you read the article you'll see that Microsoft are the ones who
linked the increase to Copilot. Here's a clearer explanation:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/its-official-all-your-office-apps-are-getting-ai-and-a-price-increase/
The personal version is going up even more. Almost half. And it's
renamed
to Microsoft 365 Copilot, as you noted. They're clearly trying to market
Copilot as a valuable extra. That's no conspiracy theory. They want you
to think Copilot is the point. And maybe they'll get away with it.
People are
gaga for AI these days. Though the only people I know saddled with MSO
365 are people stuck with it due to academic deals with colleges.
I recently linked to an interview with the MS head of AI, who says
that AI assistants are the future of computing. The near future:
https://www.theverge.com/24314821/microsoft-ai-ceo-mustafa-suleyman-google-deepmind-openai-inflection-agi-decoder-podcast
"My bet is that every browser, search engine, and app is going to get
represented by some kind of conversational interface, some kind of
generative interface. The UI that you experience is going to be
automagically produced by an LLM in three or five years, and that is
going to be the default. And they’ll be representing the brands,
businesses, influencers, celebrities, academics, activists, and
organizations..."
This is all from the horse's mouth. MS are clearly pushing an image of
themselves as out in front with the miracle of AI, just as their Channel
Bar, sitting on the Desktop, packed with ads, showed that they were out
in front with the Internet in 1998. (Maybe it's a good sign that MS have
been trying to shows ads for over 25 years and are just now managing
to pull off the scam. My prediction is that Windows goes rental soon.
That will all but complete the takeover of your device.
But more to the point (and I thank you for providing another opportunity
to clarify this point for the public record) is that so-called AI is
surveillance
on steroids. It promises to put a middleman interface between you and
everything you do on computers. If you go to DuckDuckGo to search, that
can be reasonably private, aside from Google, Facebook, Apple and a few
other leaches trying to track your movements. If you ask Copilot to search
for you, that provides an opportunity for Microsoft to monitor every nuance
of your search. Not only search terms but changes in search terms, info
provided, where the info came from, possibly even changes in speech
inflection. Enshittification, big time. :)
This is the new iteration of the IE monopoly: Cut off the air supply
of Google and others by making sure that people never go outside of
Windows (and Windows/MS apps) when using Windows devices. At the
same time, the AI will provide an extraordinary opportunity for data
collection, to show targetted ads, for which a high price can be charged,
because the customer as target will be profiled with unprecedented
accuracy and specificity. I expect that for the always desperate leadership
at MS, this is not a moral issue or even a tech issue. It's simply money
being left on the table, as the saying goes, and they're going to make
the obvious choice: Grab that money before someone else does.
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