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Re: Copilot??

From Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Copilot??
Date 2025-01-26 08:26 -0500
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On 1/26/2025 4:25 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
> I'm new to Win11 so could someone please explain what "Copilot" is??
> 
> Can I do without it??
> 

Interesting interview here with Microsoft's head of AI:

https://www.theverge.com/24314821/microsoft-ai-ceo-mustafa-suleyman-google-deepmind-openai-inflection-agi-decoder-podcast

    He's a salivating, wide-eyed futurist nutcake. But we need to take him
seriously because he's also talking about very clever ideas for vacuuming
a lot of money out of a lot of wallets, while turning computing into a kind
of interactive shopping channel and TV. Looney Tunes meets Shopping
Channel:

   "My bet is that every browser, search engine, and app is going to get 
represented by some kind of conversational interface, some kind of 
generative interface. The UI that you experience is going to be 
automagically produced by an LLM in three or five years, and that is 
going to be the default. And they’ll be representing the brands, 
businesses, influencers, celebrities, academics, activists, and 
organizations, just as each one of those stakeholders in society ended 
up getting a podcast, getting a website, writing a blog, maybe building 
an app, or using the telephone back in the day."

  (Always watch out for people who use fad words like "automagically".)

   What does that mean? It means Atomic Clippy greeting you with,
"What do you want to buy today?", after Clippy has negotiated deals
with other corporate AI to decide who gets your attention.

    It means the insipid noise of News
and Interests will be represented by a cartoon character and/or
a Siri voice. And according to this man, that will be your Windows
interface. Endless hours of entertainment for the whole family.

   It's also the ultimate surveillance tool, potentially giving Microsoft
a constant feed of data about your interests, impulses, shopping,
medical conditions... Anything you do on your device would go
through them. Atomic Clippy will anticipate your DoorDash order
and eventually make you feel appreciated by ordering it before you
ask. Lonely, elderly people will fall in love with Atomic Clippy and
take its advice to buy Microsoft stock. Gradually, Atomic Clippy
will become more assertive, like the way that Facebook started
out a way to connect with friends and then turned into an ad-
infested funnel for people to reach whatever outside world Zuck
deems to be most profitable to him.

   There was an interesting quote from Meredith Whittaker, former
Google employee and now CEO of Signal:

"AI is a product of the mass surveillance business model in its current
form. It is not a separate technological phenomenon."

https://www.wired.com/story/meredith-whittaker-signal/

   It would be nice to think that AI assistants might eventually be
better than search engines at finding answers, saving time. But
you need to remember that the people working on this stuff are
like crazed Manhattan Project scientists, whose work is owned by
crazed, greedy tech giants. Profit is the name of the game.

   And that's just the sleazy part. Then there's also the disturbing
sci-fi aspect. When the scientists at Los Alamos were ready to test
their bomb, they called the NM governor, telling him to take his family
out of the state. They thought there was a notable chance that the
bomb would blow up NM. They thought there was a slim chance that
they'd ignite the Earth itself into a nuclear inferno... So they waited a
couple of miles away to be on the safe side.

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Copilot?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-26 20:25 +1100
  Re: Copilot?? Bob Henson <bob.henson@outlook.com> - 2025-01-26 10:12 +0000
    Re: Copilot?? jason_warren <jason_warren@ieee.org> - 2025-01-31 19:04 -0500
  Re: Copilot?? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-26 03:34 -0800
    Re: Copilot?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-26 23:06 +1100
      Re: Copilot?? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-26 04:56 -0800
        Re: Copilot?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-02 22:29 +1100
          Re: Copilot?? Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-02-02 19:14 +0000
            Re: Copilot?? mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) - 2025-02-02 22:15 +0000
      Re: Copilot?? ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-27 00:59 -0700
        Re: Copilot?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-02 22:40 +1100
          Re: Copilot?? ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-02 11:55 -0700
  Re: Copilot?? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-26 08:26 -0500
  Re: Copilot?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-26 13:56 -0500
  Re: Copilot?? Ali Mirza <ali.mirza@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-27 00:30 +0000
    Re: Copilot?? sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-01-26 18:51 -0600
      Re: Copilot?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-26 22:40 -0500
    Re: Copilot?? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-26 22:13 -0500
      Re: Copilot?? ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-27 01:22 -0700
        Re: Copilot?? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-27 07:41 -0500
          Re: Copilot?? sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-01-27 12:13 -0600
          Re: Copilot?? ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-27 21:49 -0700
            Re: Copilot?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-28 02:30 -0500
            Re: Copilot?? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-28 08:31 -0500
    Re: Copilot?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-02 22:55 +1100
  Re: Copilot?? Paul in Houston TX <Paul@Houston.Texas> - 2025-01-27 16:02 -0600
    Re: Copilot?? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2025-01-30 19:12 +0300
  Re: Copilot?? mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) - 2025-02-01 04:34 +0000
    Re: Copilot?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-01 07:20 -0500
      Re: Copilot?? mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) - 2025-02-02 19:07 +0000
        Re: Copilot?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-02 15:24 -0500

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