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Re: Copilot??

From Paul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Copilot??
Date 2025-01-26 13:56 -0500
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On Sun, 1/26/2025 4:25 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
> I'm new to Win11 so could someone please explain what "Copilot" is??
> 
> Can I do without it??
> 
> TIA

AI are non-deterministic. The answers don't have to make any sense.
Quite frequently, a serious query, where you need a result, you
have to run it multiple times, adding "hints" to the question.
A serious query might require five English language sentences
to provide sufficient constraints for a solution. As a result,
you first craft a serious query in Notepad, before pasting the
text into the CoPilot hole.

It's the non-determinism that makes it "useless".

*******

You can ask it questions.

"Can you write me a Hello World program in the C Language ?"

"Approximately, how many fig newtons fit in a liter jar ?"

"If I put my shoes on the wrong feet, what will happen to me ?"

"What is the thing called, which is fitted to the end
 of a shoe lace to prevent it from fraying ?"

You could also ask it for the names of the component parts of a zipper.

*******

Now, for the next level of demonstration, we need to examine what
the various entry points on the computer do.

1) There is a Copilot icon on the task bar. This one is not signed in.
   If you ask Copilot to draw you a picture, it will ask you to sign
   in with your MSA, which is a pain in the ass.

2) If you open the MSEdge (web browser) icon, then look up in the upper right corner,
   there is a Copilot icon. On my machine at least, I seem to be signed
   into Edge. It must have happened at some point. When you request the
   drawing of a picture, the Copilot running at the data center, does
   an analysis of the query, to see what module should load. It has
   loaded something like "Copilot Studio Lite" when I asked it this question.
   This is the result. I got a picture.

   <me> Can you draw me a picture of two harbour seals basking in the sun on a rock at the beach ?

   [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/BnNFxJ5t/seals.jpg

Now the first time I ran that query, it looked "photo-realistic".
The second run shows signs of a bit of hallucination, rather than
just copying a picture almost verbatim from somewhere. The first
picture, the composition was almost too good for an AI to do without
some sort of help. I didn't save the first picture. The second picture
posted above, isn't quite as good as the first. No day at the
beach looks quite like the second picture. Harbour seals sometimes
sit on a rock, to avoid being eaten by an Orca, but the rock must be
very big, because an Orca will rise up on the rock and take a swipe
at them. Harbour seals will also jump up on the running board
on the back of a yacht, for a similar reason, to avoid being eaten.

https://awaalaska.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/whittier_alaska_harbor_seal_001.jpg

That seal can quite easily be knocked off there and eaten.
That's not the best spot for it.

   Paul

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Copilot?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-26 20:25 +1100
  Re: Copilot?? Bob Henson <bob.henson@outlook.com> - 2025-01-26 10:12 +0000
    Re: Copilot?? jason_warren <jason_warren@ieee.org> - 2025-01-31 19:04 -0500
  Re: Copilot?? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-26 03:34 -0800
    Re: Copilot?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-26 23:06 +1100
      Re: Copilot?? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-26 04:56 -0800
        Re: Copilot?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-02 22:29 +1100
          Re: Copilot?? Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-02-02 19:14 +0000
            Re: Copilot?? mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) - 2025-02-02 22:15 +0000
      Re: Copilot?? ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-27 00:59 -0700
        Re: Copilot?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-02 22:40 +1100
          Re: Copilot?? ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-02 11:55 -0700
  Re: Copilot?? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-26 08:26 -0500
  Re: Copilot?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-26 13:56 -0500
  Re: Copilot?? Ali Mirza <ali.mirza@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-27 00:30 +0000
    Re: Copilot?? sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-01-26 18:51 -0600
      Re: Copilot?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-26 22:40 -0500
    Re: Copilot?? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-26 22:13 -0500
      Re: Copilot?? ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-27 01:22 -0700
        Re: Copilot?? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-27 07:41 -0500
          Re: Copilot?? sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2025-01-27 12:13 -0600
          Re: Copilot?? ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-01-27 21:49 -0700
            Re: Copilot?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-28 02:30 -0500
            Re: Copilot?? Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-28 08:31 -0500
    Re: Copilot?? Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-02-02 22:55 +1100
  Re: Copilot?? Paul in Houston TX <Paul@Houston.Texas> - 2025-01-27 16:02 -0600
    Re: Copilot?? Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2025-01-30 19:12 +0300
  Re: Copilot?? mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) - 2025-02-01 04:34 +0000
    Re: Copilot?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-01 07:20 -0500
      Re: Copilot?? mummycullen@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (MummyChunk) - 2025-02-02 19:07 +0000
        Re: Copilot?? Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-02 15:24 -0500

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