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Re: My new-to-me renewed laptop is dead.

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On Sun, 1/26/2025 3:59 AM, micky wrote:
> My new-to-me renewed laptop is dead. 
> 
> I bought from Amazon a renwed Dell laptop about 4 yeears old.  It came
> on Dec 12.  I used it for about an hour and it was fine.  the charger
> charged.  I coudl dl and install Firefox. I could use an external mouse.
> A few other things worked. 
> 
> Then I got sick from something the doctor did to me on Dec. 11 and
> didn't have the strength to work on it until last tonight. The battery
> still had almost all its charge an dit started right up. I plugged in
> the ext. mouse and an ext keyboard.  Then I wanted to go upstairs for a
> hub, to plug in external drive.   I slept it, and notice that it woke up
> when I opened the lid, then the screen went dark again when I closed the
> lid, without touching any keys either time. 
> 
> Left the charger plugged in for 3 or 4 hours.  The light on the included
> charger was on. There are no lights on the laptop to tell when it's
> charging or on, or when caps/num/scroll lock are on. When I came
> downstairs and plugged in the hub and tried to start it, it's totally
> dead.  I unplugged all the usb things and it's still dead. 
> 
> I can get the model number tomorrow moring, but does what I've said give
> any ideas?   And are Amazon refurbs guaranteed for 2 months? :-(  
> 
> The only thing I added to the mix today was the hub and the ext drive.
> The ext drive I've used before, including 2 days ago on the other pc.
> Could a bad hub do this much damage? 
> 

Does the adapter look like the original adapter ?

Or, do you suppose, some scumbag threw an adapter in
the box that doesn't actually go with that laptop ?

We had this discussion years ago. At first, I figured with
switching converters, it wouldn't really matter what you
fed a laptop. But as it turns out, the circuitry inside
the laptop economizes  and does not work any magic. The
uncertainty on the voltage could be on the order of +/- 0.5V
or so. In other words, as far as the engineer who designed
the laptop is concerned, "use our adapter... or else".

Someone was convinced they were going to follow the direction
of some sales site, and use an adapter that "covers a large
number of models". The voltage was only off by a little bit.
The person posting was doing a victory laptop, when the laptop
was charging and the bargain charger had been delivered and so on.

But he wrote back about a month later to report the laptop
was dead, and it would appear that perhaps the voltage difference
was sufficient to overheat something inside.

We can't really know from this altitude, what happened to it.
It could be random mortality. But on the other hand, the
nature of refurbs, how many jokers would return the laptop
to the IT department including with the kit, the original
wall adapter ? If it was coming off lease, the lease company would
be lucky to just get the laptop.

it could be, this isn't your fault, and it's just how the
bits and pieces were assembled before shipment.

If the machine is from a major vendor, the "parts store" of
that vendor, would have a standard parts number in their
listing for the laptop. You could examine the adapter and
see if that part number is stamped on it.

   Paul

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My new-to-me renewed laptop is dead.  micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-01-26 03:59 -0500
  Re: My new-to-me renewed laptop is dead. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-26 05:52 -0500
    Re: My new-to-me renewed laptop is dead. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-01-26 11:03 -0500
      Re: My new-to-me renewed laptop is dead. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-26 16:19 +0000
        Re: My new-to-me renewed laptop is dead. SOLVED, or Problem went away.  micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-02 18:22 -0400
      Re: My new-to-me renewed laptop is dead. Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2025-01-26 11:07 -0800
  Re: My new-to-me renewed laptop is dead. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-26 15:34 +0000
    Re: My new-to-me renewed laptop is dead. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-01-26 11:11 -0500
      Re: My new-to-me renewed laptop is dead. Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-26 16:25 +0000
        Re: My new-to-me renewed laptop is dead. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-26 16:17 -0500
          Re: My new-to-me renewed laptop is dead. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-01-28 10:24 -0500
            Re: My new-to-me renewed laptop is dead. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-28 16:15 -0500
        Re: My new-to-me renewed laptop is dead. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-04-02 18:21 -0400
  Re: My new-to-me renewed laptop is dead. Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-01-26 17:06 +0000
    Re: My new-to-me renewed laptop is dead.  SOLVED micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-01-27 22:55 -0500
      Re: My new-to-me renewed laptop is dead. SOLVED Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-27 23:42 -0500
        Re: My new-to-me renewed laptop is dead. SOLVED Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-28 01:13 -0500
  Re: My new-to-me renewed laptop is dead. Paul in Houston TX <Paul@Houston.Texas> - 2025-01-28 18:44 -0600

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