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Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks

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Subject Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks
Date 2025-01-10 08:54 -0500
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On 1/10/2025 12:05 AM, Paul wrote:

> Imagine how they behave in North America, where there are no
> rules and cowboys wander drunk in the streets :-)
> 
    That's only in the US. As I understand it, Canadians mostly
sit around quilting and being reasonable.

> There is also WebView2, and you have to decide what you're going
> to do with that (remove or leave). Something has to support
> HTML/JS "Apps". Removing that, might break your News and Interests
> for example (gosh!). But it might also break the Microsoft Calculator.App .
> 

   That's an interesting question. I remove most of the "apps" that
are not runtimes or hardware support. Do the rest use WebView2?
I don't know. If those did break then wouldn't that also break the
Metro/WinRT/UWP settings applets? (You know, the dumb ones
that have almost no settings and show no windows chrome.) But
then, Metro predates Edge. I really don't know how all of that ties
in. My assumption has been that Metro and its distorted siblings
are an entire runtime of its own. As I understand it, one can use
script to write them, but also C++ and .Net can be used. So I'm
guessing there's some kind of transformation from one's code of
choice into some kind of interpreted Metro code. Knowing Microsoft,
it probably involves gobs of JSON and GUIDs, stuck together with
some kind of abomination designed to conflict with all other languages,
so that MS tools have to be used to write the apps... But I've never
actually looked into it. I've never had any curiosity about writing a
desktop app.

    I didn't try to remove WebView2 and don't know whether
there's any such thing separate from Win10. (IE, for example,
includes critical system DLLs like shdocvw and urlmon. What,
exactly is IE?) My guess is that WebView2 is only about getting
an actual Edge browser window, since it's an add-on for older
systems.

   In any case, Edge and all signs of it can be removed. Scripting of
HTAs is not touched, as that uses the now hidden IE, which can still
be used in HTAs and can still be called up via COM.

> One person claims they used "Hammer and Tongs" to remove it,
> deleting this and that. And it "hasn't come back". But, you need
> an extremely long temporal period to conclude you have "a victory
> on your hands". 

    All bets are off if one allows updates to install. Microsoft have
adopted the position that "all your computers are belong to us".
I've seen repeated complaints of people getting Copilot or News
and Interests without asking. MS clearly have a plan in terms of
how they want Windows to run. It involves shopping and surveillance.
Productivity? Not so much. Maybe that's not so bad. Who wants
productivity anymore? Give me an AI version of Kim Kardashian's
ass if she were a Martian, so that I have something to post on
Instagram.

    Now that the Microsofties have sacfrificed dignity and self-respect
at the altar of Moola, the sky's the limit. (Before I nuked News and
Interests on my new box, it offered me a dozen fluff options to
celebrate Elvis's birthday.)

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Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 05:14 -0800
  Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-05 10:43 -0500
    Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-05 12:44 -0500
      Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-05 18:39 +0000
    Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-05 10:48 -0800
    Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Simon GAHHH Creator <noreply@GAHHH.com> - 2025-01-06 02:00 +0000
  Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-05 12:50 -0500
    Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-05 13:05 -0500
      Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-05 13:38 -0500
        Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-05 13:20 -0600
          Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-05 14:53 -0500
          Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-05 15:19 -0500
  Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Simon GAHHH Creator <noreply@GAHHH.com> - 2025-01-06 02:02 +0000
    Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-06 15:23 -0800
  Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 16:41 +0800
  Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 12:43 -0800
  Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-01-09 22:01 +0000
    Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 14:21 -0800
      Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-09 22:28 -0500
        Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 19:42 -0800
          Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-09 23:05 -0500
            Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 14:34 -0800
          Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-10 00:05 -0500
            Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 01:38 -0800
            Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-10 08:54 -0500
        Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 19:53 -0800
          Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-10 09:01 -0500
            Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> - 2025-01-11 09:29 +0000
              Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 02:59 -0800
        Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> - 2025-01-10 08:30 -0900
          Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-10 14:00 -0500
            Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 11:19 -0800
              Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-10 19:43 -0500
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 18:36 -0800
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-10 21:59 -0500
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-10 23:18 -0500
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-10 23:39 -0500
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 03:00 -0800
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-11 08:46 -0500
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:49 -0800
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-11 08:43 -0500
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> - 2025-01-11 10:04 -0900
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:51 -0800
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-11 23:13 -0500
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 22:46 -0800
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> - 2025-01-12 10:28 -0900
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 13:43 -0800
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                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 12:38 -0800
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2025-01-13 09:48 -0700
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-11 13:49 +0000
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-11 11:15 -0500
          Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> - 2025-01-11 09:30 +0000
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