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Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks

From Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks
Date 2025-01-11 08:43 -0500
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On 1/10/2025 11:39 PM, Paul wrote:
> On Fri, 1/10/2025 11:18 PM, Newyana2 wrote:
>> On 1/10/2025 9:36 PM, T wrote:
>>
>>> Fast Startup makes your system unstable after a few days.
>>> This "might" be your problem with Open Shell and other things:
>>>
>>
>>    I haven't had any trouble with an unstable system. I just
>> seem to remember Open Shell being a bit glitchy. Classic Shell
>> has been fine. I also installed OS on Win11 today and it seems
>> to be OK. Though the start button doesn't look quite right.
>> It's on top of the Windows button, which is still there. Not
>> a big deal, but not as smooth as CS.
>>
>>    The only other problems I've had with Win10 are 1) the
>> astonishing discombobulated bloat that takes a lot of work
>> to clean up and 2) that updates don't seem to work very well
>> after tweaking. I've run updates now on 3 Win10 and 2 Win11.
>> They've all been smooth and quick when done before tweaking,
>> but unsuccessful after tweaking. I don't regard that as
>> instability. I regard it as indicative of Microsoft's increasing
>> resolve to force their customers into an ad-infested, spyware,
>> services system. I've repeatedly found Win10 to be brittle, and
>> I attribute that to Microsoft trying to block control. But I
>> haven't experienced instability. By brittle I mean that it breaks
>> easilly when I start fiddling around.
>>
>>      I did pretty much lose the whole
>> thing when I tried to run a security update awhile back. Updates
>> that fail to even install shouldn't leave the system in pieces. But
>> I had a disk image backup and it all worked out OK. I won't be
>> trying that again.
> 
> I had something weird today. I went out for groceries, and when I
> came back, the machine was off. It wasn't a power fail, because
> the clocks weren't flashing. I checked the Reliability monitor
> and found this (Settings : type "relia" into the search).
> 
> Installation Failure: Windows failed to install the following
>                        update with error 0x80073D02:
> 
>                        9MSSGKG348SP-MicrosoftWindows.Client.WebExperience
> 
> The identifier at the beginning of that, is not one I've seen before.
> 
> So when installing that, the machine did something rash, and I can't
> imagine what. I was running my RAMDrive at the time and it was
> loaded with stuff... all lost.
> 
> It would appear then, that the "Widgets" which are turned off,
> have dropped my machine. Nice work, you bastards.
> 
> https://www.elevenforum.com/t/windows-web-experience-pack.2103/
> 
> ["Microsoft Store Error Code 0x80073D02"]
> 
> I would have disconnected the network cable before I left,
> but in fact my network cable is now worn out and needs to be
> replaced.
> 
> Is this a great time to be alive, or what ?
> 
   Is that a trick question? You seem to relish the challenge
of these mixups... Which I partially empathize with. I ended up
wwith a strobing Win11 yesterday as a result of trying to install
some things to give me a Quick Launch bar. Luckily a reboot
fixed it. I had been doing cleanup for 2 hours without making a
disk image and didn't want to have to repeat all that.

    I just deleted the WebExperience WindowsApps folders. That's
become part of my 10/11 routine: Uninistall all apps via PowerShell,
remove restrictions on all of WindowsApps, then delete anything
that's not runtimes or hardware utilities. Realtek, OK. Bing maps?
You're outta here!

   I also figured out the WebView2 question, I think. The tool I
use offers 3 EXEs, though I haven't found an explanation of
which is which. One is Remove-Edge. Another is Remove-EdgeWeb.
The 3rd is Remove-NoTerm. I've been using Remove-EdgeWeb. It
shows a console window. Removing Edge.... Removing Webview...

   The Readme file says WebView is needed for:
- Lenovo USB Recovery Creator Tool
- Quicken
- Windows Mail
- Xbox App

    I've never used any of those, but it's good to know.

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Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 05:14 -0800
  Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-05 10:43 -0500
    Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-05 12:44 -0500
      Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-05 18:39 +0000
    Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2025-01-05 10:48 -0800
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  Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-05 12:50 -0500
    Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-05 13:05 -0500
      Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-05 13:38 -0500
        Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-05 13:20 -0600
          Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-05 14:53 -0500
          Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-05 15:19 -0500
  Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Simon GAHHH Creator <noreply@GAHHH.com> - 2025-01-06 02:02 +0000
    Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks "John C." <r9jmg0@yahoo.com> - 2025-01-06 15:23 -0800
  Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 16:41 +0800
  Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 12:43 -0800
  Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2025-01-09 22:01 +0000
    Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 14:21 -0800
      Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-09 22:28 -0500
        Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 19:42 -0800
          Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-09 23:05 -0500
            Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 14:34 -0800
          Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-10 00:05 -0500
            Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 01:38 -0800
            Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-10 08:54 -0500
        Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-09 19:53 -0800
          Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-10 09:01 -0500
            Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> - 2025-01-11 09:29 +0000
              Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 02:59 -0800
        Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> - 2025-01-10 08:30 -0900
          Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-10 14:00 -0500
            Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 11:19 -0800
              Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-10 19:43 -0500
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-10 18:36 -0800
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-10 21:59 -0500
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-10 23:18 -0500
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-10 23:39 -0500
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 03:00 -0800
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-11 08:46 -0500
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:49 -0800
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-11 08:43 -0500
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> - 2025-01-11 10:04 -0900
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 12:51 -0800
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2025-01-11 23:13 -0500
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 22:46 -0800
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> - 2025-01-12 10:28 -0900
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-11 13:43 -0800
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                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 12:38 -0800
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2025-01-13 09:48 -0700
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-11 13:49 +0000
                Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-11 11:15 -0500
          Re: Now I absolutely know why Windows 10 completely sucks wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> - 2025-01-11 09:30 +0000
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