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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-11 |
| Subject | Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router |
| Date | 2024-12-31 07:27 -0500 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <vl0nuk$280qt$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On Tue, 12/31/2024 4:39 AM, wasbit wrote:
> On 30/12/2024 16:14, Java Jive wrote:
>> On 2024-12-30 09:28, wasbit wrote:
>>>
>>> On 30/12/2024 08:29, Graham J wrote:
>>>>
>>>> MajorLanGod wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to attach a hard drive to the USB port so I can access it
>>>>> from my Win 11 system as well as my Android tablet and phone.
>>>>
>>>> Don't!
>>>>
>>>> Get a NAS drive and connect it to an Ethernet port on the router.
>>>
>>> Why not.
>>> I used a pen drive in a router USB port for years as a quick & easy back up storage, until I changed routers.
>>> It also has the benefit of not needing any extra power.
>>
>> A hard disk, as stated by the OP, *WILL* require an extra source of power.
>>
>> Snip <
>>
>
> Nope. A USB3 port will provide enough power to run a 2.5" HDD either a spinner or SSD. I know because I've done it on a previous router.
>
There are three parts to USB bus power
(for bus powered devices without their own adapter)
Nominal ---------- Fuse protection limit --- power supply current
Power 1.1 amps USB2 is limited to some
Limit 2.0? amps USB3 number (ATX is only ~3 amps)
5V @ 500mA
5V @ 900mA
Type A connector
When you make a statement like "no problem", there are
a lot of assumptions in there.
On SSDs for example, the max power spec could be related
to the "spikes" that happen. we don't know if there are
any long term behaviors at that power level ("Secure Erase").
The 2.5" laptop HDD, those are around 5V @ ~1 amps at spinup.
Some drives do not list a spec for spinup. Forcing us to guess.
There were *lots* of people writing in, in the past, concerning
a tethered 2.5" not working properly or reliably. The USB adapter
in its config space, might "promise" not to use more than 900 mA,
when the designers know the HDD motor uses 1000 mA for a short
time until the drive is up to speed. And tethered USB 2.5 HDD
can spin up more than once, in a session.
The Polyfuses "age", the more times you pop them, and
an aged fuse, blows more easily than a pristine fuse.
What some people are seeing, is the results of continuing
to try to overload their USB port.
Laptops use "silicon policemen" for protection, as Polyfuses
don't like the elevated temperature of an uncooled section of PCB.
Device setting... unknown. We don't know what their response was
to the Intel white paper.
Summary: Do what you like, but the loose nature of USB is
the gift that keeps on giving.
Paul
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Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router MajorLanGod <lonelydad58@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 02:09 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-29 22:48 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2024-12-30 08:29 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> - 2024-12-30 09:28 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2024-12-30 16:14 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2024-12-30 09:40 -0700
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2024-12-30 18:13 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-30 23:32 +0100
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2024-12-30 23:22 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 03:12 +0100
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-31 06:31 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2024-12-31 12:12 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-31 07:48 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2024-12-31 14:07 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-31 16:40 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2024-12-31 15:53 -0700
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-01 00:00 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-31 20:46 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-01 04:44 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-01-01 10:41 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-01 18:48 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-02 00:36 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-02 15:13 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:49 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 15:57 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-02 13:21 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:46 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-03 15:49 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-25 23:13 +1100
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-25 08:07 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-01-25 17:42 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-01 09:03 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-01 18:55 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-02 00:16 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 13:22 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 14:44 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-01 16:12 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-02 01:37 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-02 01:51 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-02 04:00 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:47 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router MajorLanGod <lonelydad58@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 19:16 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router MajorLanGod <lonelydad58@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 19:13 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2024-12-31 21:16 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 14:54 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> - 2024-12-31 09:39 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-31 07:27 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:20 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2024-12-31 20:34 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:53 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 21:57 +0100
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 21:36 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 13:18 -0700
OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2024-12-30 08:08 -0500
Re: OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-30 13:46 +0000
Re: OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2024-12-30 16:19 +0100
Re: OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2024-12-30 16:27 +0000
Re: OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> - 2024-12-30 17:06 +0000
Re: OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2024-12-30 17:29 +0000
Re: OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2024-12-30 20:33 +0000
Re: OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-30 18:36 -0500
Re: OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-30 12:46 -0500
Re: OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2024-12-30 14:34 -0500
Re: OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 15:17 +0000
Re: OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2024-12-31 21:22 -0500
Re: OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2024-12-30 16:36 -0500
Re: OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 14:40 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-30 06:07 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 16:48 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2024-12-30 12:18 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2024-12-30 18:09 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router MajorLanGod <lonelydad58@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 22:40 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-30 23:37 +0100
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router MajorLanGod <lonelydad58@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 19:20 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router The Man With the Golden Touch <invalid@invalid.com> - 2024-12-31 01:01 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router MajorLanGod <lonelydad58@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 19:22 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-31 05:46 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router MajorLanGod <lonelydad58@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 19:28 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:57 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 15:16 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 20:25 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-01-01 21:23 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 21:42 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-01 21:50 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-02 11:59 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 16:58 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-01 23:19 +0100
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-01 17:58 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-02 05:10 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 16:17 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-02 13:10 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 19:14 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:50 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-02 23:18 +0100
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:44 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-04 02:58 +0100
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-05 16:09 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-05 13:13 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-05 19:36 +0000
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