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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.os.windows-11 |
| Subject | Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router |
| Date | 2024-12-31 06:31 -0500 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <vl0kmf$27cu1$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On Mon, 12/30/2024 9:12 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2024-12-31 00:22, Java Jive wrote:
>> On 2024-12-30 22:32, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2024-12-30 17:14, Java Jive wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 2024-12-30 09:28, wasbit wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 30/12/2024 08:29, Graham J wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MajorLanGod wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to attach a hard drive to the USB port so I can access it
>>>>>>> from my Win 11 system as well as my Android tablet and phone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Get a NAS drive and connect it to an Ethernet port on the router.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not.
>>>>> I used a pen drive in a router USB port for years as a quick & easy back up storage, until I changed routers.
>>>>> It also has the benefit of not needing any extra power.
>>>>
>>>> A hard disk, as stated by the OP, *WILL* require an extra source of power.
>>>
>>> Not all of them. A small form hard disk, designed for use on a laptop, typically doesn't, aside from the USB connector.
>>
>> I've not yet seen a router capable of driving anything more than a USB stick, while the OP talked of a hard drive, not an SSD or NVMe.
>
> Hard drive is a generic wording for an SSD too, says my hardware vendor. Meaning, the SSDs are listed in the hard disk department. NVMe too, but they don't talk USB. They might, but would be a waste of money.
No.
This is why your vendor is a vendor and not a technician.
We use "hard drive" for rotating media. Hard drive was originally used,
to distinguish the rigid platter from the floppy platter of the
floppy drive. The first consumer hard drives, the mechanism driving
the heads, was almost a dead ringer for the same thing on the floppy.
The heads moved radially, propelled by a stepper motor, and being
open loop (no way to tell it was on-track or not). It was at that point,
the hard drive industry exploded... and then collapsed, with the
winners taking all. Many companies did stupid stuff, and were rewarded
for it. For example, one hard drive I had in the lab, an 8" diameter
hard drive, the spindle was on a *stepper motor*, which generates
nothing but torque ripple. Which is the exact opposite of the
characteristic of hard drives today (minimal torque ripple and
minimal variation in platter rotational speed).
Nothing rotates on a solid state drive. That's why it is "solid state".
Not all of our terminology is that precise, but some things are pretty clear.
That's why I'm not extending this post with any more device types :-)
*******
You can place an NVMe in a USB tray, and access at 1GB/sec or 2GB/sec.
The 1GB/sec is all that you really need, as the 2GB/sec spec (USB3.2 2x2)
was considered to be an orphan. The USB4 ecosystem, will see yet another
flavor of NVMe tray delivered, but that could take a while. Just as USB4
has taken a long time to emerge.
In this example, the enclosure ("tray") is missing, and the thing
is open form factor. You can slide a 2280 into the connector, fasten
the screw at the 80mm post, and the device is then ready to use.
The connector they've chosen, the tang is the wrong color, and a red
tang would be a better representation of the SS10 speed (~1GB/sec
real world). With the presumably 4.5 watt limit on power for the USB
connector, there is some possibility of power starvation on this thing.
The older NVMe I've got as a sampler, is 5.8 watts max. But that's
5.8 watts at 3.5GB/sec versus the 1.0GB/sec of the tray access. We hope
and suspect it would work, but we don't know for sure.
https://www.amazon.ca/Adapter-Board-Converter-M-Key-Reader/dp/B097BC1RY4
Paul
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Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router MajorLanGod <lonelydad58@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 02:09 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-29 22:48 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2024-12-30 08:29 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> - 2024-12-30 09:28 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2024-12-30 16:14 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2024-12-30 09:40 -0700
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2024-12-30 18:13 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-30 23:32 +0100
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2024-12-30 23:22 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 03:12 +0100
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-31 06:31 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2024-12-31 12:12 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-31 07:48 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2024-12-31 14:07 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-31 16:40 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2024-12-31 15:53 -0700
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-01 00:00 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-31 20:46 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-01 04:44 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-01-01 10:41 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-01 18:48 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-02 00:36 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-02 15:13 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:49 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 15:57 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-02 13:21 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:46 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-03 15:49 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-01-25 23:13 +1100
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-25 08:07 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-01-25 17:42 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-01 09:03 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-01 18:55 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-01-02 00:16 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 13:22 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 14:44 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-01 16:12 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-02 01:37 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-02 01:51 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-02 04:00 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:47 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router MajorLanGod <lonelydad58@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 19:16 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router MajorLanGod <lonelydad58@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 19:13 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2024-12-31 21:16 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 14:54 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router wasbit <wasbit@nowhere.com> - 2024-12-31 09:39 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-31 07:27 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:20 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2024-12-31 20:34 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:53 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-31 21:57 +0100
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 21:36 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 13:18 -0700
OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2024-12-30 08:08 -0500
Re: OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-30 13:46 +0000
Re: OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Joerg Walther <joerg.walther@magenta.de> - 2024-12-30 16:19 +0100
Re: OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2024-12-30 16:27 +0000
Re: OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> - 2024-12-30 17:06 +0000
Re: OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Graham J <nobody@nowhere.co.uk> - 2024-12-30 17:29 +0000
Re: OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2024-12-30 20:33 +0000
Re: OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-30 18:36 -0500
Re: OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-30 12:46 -0500
Re: OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2024-12-30 14:34 -0500
Re: OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 15:17 +0000
Re: OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2024-12-31 21:22 -0500
Re: OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router "Alan K." <alan@invalid.com> - 2024-12-30 16:36 -0500
Re: OT NAS for Router, was: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 14:40 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-30 06:07 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 16:48 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2024-12-30 12:18 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2024-12-30 18:09 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router MajorLanGod <lonelydad58@gmail.com> - 2024-12-30 22:40 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-30 23:37 +0100
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router MajorLanGod <lonelydad58@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 19:20 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router The Man With the Golden Touch <invalid@invalid.com> - 2024-12-31 01:01 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router MajorLanGod <lonelydad58@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 19:22 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-31 05:46 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router MajorLanGod <lonelydad58@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 19:28 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-31 20:57 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 15:16 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 20:25 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2025-01-01 21:23 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-01 21:42 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> - 2025-01-01 21:50 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-02 11:59 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-01 16:58 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-01 23:19 +0100
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-01 17:58 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-02 05:10 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 16:17 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-01-02 13:10 -0500
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-01-02 19:14 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:50 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-02 23:18 +0100
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-02 21:44 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-01-04 02:58 +0100
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-05 16:09 +0000
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-01-05 13:13 -0600
Re: Mounting a drive on the USB port of my router Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-01-05 19:36 +0000
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