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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: For The Gamers |
| Date | 2024-12-28 07:15 +0000 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <vko8in$6v2m$2@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 2024-12-28, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: > On 2024-12-27 21:42, RonB wrote: >> On 2024-12-27, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: >>> On 2024-12-24 04:44, RonB wrote: >>>> On 2024-12-23, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>> Le 2024-12-23 à 01:30, RonB a écrit : >>>>>> On 2024-12-22, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>>>>>> Le 2024-12-22 à 01:06, rbowman a écrit : >>>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 05:25:09 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2024-12-21, Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The reason they use Windows is because it runs Microsoft Office (and >>>>>>>>>>> businesses are "married" to this crap) and Microsoft's has leverage >>>>>>>>>>> with the computer manufacturers. Monopolies have a lot of inertia >>>>>>>>>>> that's hard to overcome. But you'll note that, for development >>>>>>>>>>> purposes, Microsoft is now including Linux in Windows. There's a >>>>>>>>>>> reason for that. And, as software moves to the "rental" phase and more >>>>>>>>>>> and more of the applications move to the "Cloud", there will be less >>>>>>>>>>> and less necessity to use Windows. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No purchasing manager was ever fired for specifying Microsoft. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I wouldn't bet on it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Leaving out the cloud I have to agree. Microsoft and the availability of >>>>>>>> Microsoft Certified Whatevers makes pointy headed bosses sleep better at >>>>>>>> night. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's the same argument as the one that was made as to why IBM won over >>>>>>> superior platforms in the 1980s. At the very least, anyone who suggests >>>>>>> Microsoft can't be reprimanded because the boss knows that they will be >>>>>>> able to find a ton of people who can use the well-known software as well >>>>>>> as a ton of techs who can troubleshoot it. Even if they can't afford >>>>>>> that staff, there is lots of help online for most problems if they >>>>>>> search for it. That doesn't mean that the operating system is >>>>>>> necessarily better; it simply means that businesses take a lot less risk >>>>>>> in choosing one over the other. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've always mentioned that I believe that in fields like education and >>>>>>> finance, everyone would be better off using open-source though. For >>>>>>> finance, you need a robust kernel and a filesystem which resists bit-rot >>>>>>> to keep those records. There shouldn't be a need to back up data daily >>>>>>> for fear that your records will corrupt (even though it is still clearly >>>>>>> smart to do so). Similarly, in education, if the public system desires >>>>>>> removing all financial barriers to learning, doesn't it make sense to >>>>>>> run an operating system which can be deployed to even the most >>>>>>> affordable hardware at no performance penalty and prioritize the use of >>>>>>> software which can be downloaded at no charge? I've actually asked this >>>>>>> many times in the past and the answer has always been that maintaining >>>>>>> the Linux servers is more costly and time-consuming to the technicians. >>>>>>> I imagine that it is because the slightest change in configuration >>>>>>> causes chaos across the board. >>>>>> >>>>>> First off, what happened to all those people who kept suggesting IBM was a >>>>>> "no brainer" when it sank? >>>>> >>>>> By the time IBM sank, all of the standards they have introduced except >>>>> for PS/2 (for mice and keyboards) had already been abandoned. >>>>> Third-parties were already making better PCs than IBM was so suggesting >>>>> that company was no longer necessary. However, even if people chose to >>>>> suggest IBM anyway, they would have gotten ThinkPads which were >>>>> spectacular computers. Only the IBM hard disks became notoriously awful >>>>> by the end. >>>> >>>> I just brought up IBM because they used to say the same thing about them. >>>> "You can't go wrong suggesting IBM." >>>> >>>>>> Second, do you really think important databases run on MicroSlop? Windows >>>>>> might be the front-end, but I'm willing to bet that most corporations run >>>>>> SQL under Linux servers for their important records. You've heard of Oracle, >>>>>> right? (Not endorsing them, but they're the world's largest database >>>>>> company, I believe. They have their own "flavor" of Red Hat.) >>>>> >>>>> I'm becoming increasingly aware of how ubiquitous Linux is. Clearly, it >>>>> has made inroads in areas where failure is not an option. I'm not >>>>> against using it again, especially if sticking to Windows introduces new >>>>> issues like the fTPM stuttering I mentioned before (I don't think Linux >>>>> necessarily resolves this issue as much as offers ways to circumvent it >>>>> which are not available to Windows users). >>>> >>>> I'm getting to the point where I'm not so much a Linux advocate. When >>>> someone says they like Windows better, I just kind of shrug my shoulders and >>>> say, "Okay." The only that bothers me is when I'm told that Linux is hard to >>>> use, or requires constant tweaking. That's simply not the case for me. Never >>>> has been (at least from 2007 when I started using it as my main OS). There >>>> were challenges in the 90s and early 2000s. (Which is partly why I didn't >>>> stick with it until about 2007.) >>> >>> I'll be honest: Linux is easier to set up on hardware than Windows. In >>> fact, even hardware encryption is easier to set up on Linux than it is >>> on Windows. I just wish I hadn't already gone through the process with >>> Microsoft's OS because I'm at a loss as to how to "take ownership" of my >>> nvme to complete the encryption process in Linux. Despite the fact that >>> the nvme's PSID was reverted and the drive was erased securely, it still >>> seems to have a tie to Windows. No matter. >> >> I stay away from encryption, so can't be any help here. > > Well, I'll be honest: the encryption almost caused me to lose access to > my computer entirely. You see, if your drive is hardware encrypted and > you suddenly decide to install Linux, you'll be able to delete the drive > but not install on it. I was lucky that I still had my Windows 2 Go > portable HD and could use Samsung Magician through it to revert the PSID > and do a secure erase. However, had I not had it, this storage and > computer would have suddenly become useless. It's a lot more trouble > than it is worth. That's been my (limited) experience. -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien
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Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-12 13:05 +0000
Re: For The Gamers DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-12 09:43 -0500
Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-12 16:01 +0000
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Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 20:32 +0000
Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 22:36 +0000
Re: For The Gamers snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2024-12-21 22:48 +0000
Re: For The Gamers Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 18:05 -0500
Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-22 05:25 +0000
Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-22 06:06 +0000
Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 07:39 -0500
Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:30 +0000
Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-23 08:37 +0000
Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 09:17 +0000
Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 11:55 -0500
Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 09:44 +0000
Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-24 19:14 +0000
Re: For The Gamers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-25 06:53 -0500
Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 17:35 -0500
Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 17:54 -0500
Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 02:42 +0000
Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 22:18 -0500
Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 07:15 +0000
Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-21 18:18 -0500
Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-22 05:30 +0000
Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-22 06:03 +0000
Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-22 08:33 +0000
Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-22 09:39 +0000
Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:00 +0000
Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 07:22 -0500
Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:21 +0000
Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 11:51 -0500
Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 09:39 +0000
Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-24 19:00 +0000
Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 17:51 -0500
Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 02:41 +0000
Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 22:05 -0500
Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 07:14 +0000
Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-28 08:28 -0500
Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 07:45 +0000
Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 07:27 -0500
Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 21:23 +0000
Re: For The Gamers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-21 18:50 -0600
Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 07:14 -0500
Re: For The Gamers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-22 10:40 -0600
Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 11:54 -0500
Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:12 +0000
Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:11 +0000
Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 11:43 -0500
Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:10 +0000
Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 11:42 -0500
Re: For The Gamers -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-23 06:29 -0500
Re: For The Gamers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-23 07:51 -0500
Re: For The Gamers -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-23 19:18 -0500
Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 22:31 +0000
Re: For The Gamers vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-21 23:35 +0000
Re: For The Gamers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-21 18:52 -0600
Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2024-12-22 10:09 +0000
Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 07:42 -0500
Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2024-12-22 12:57 +0000
Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:04 +0000
Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-23 08:28 +0000
Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 12:01 -0500
Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 11:38 -0500
Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 09:31 +0000
Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-24 19:04 +0000
Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 17:47 -0500
Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 02:27 +0000
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