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Re: For The Gamers

Subject Re: For The Gamers
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From CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge>
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Date 2024-12-23 11:55 -0500

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Le 2024-12-23 à 01:30, RonB a écrit :
> On 2024-12-22, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> Le 2024-12-22 à 01:06, rbowman a écrit :
>>> On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 05:25:09 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-12-21, Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The reason they use Windows is because it runs Microsoft Office (and
>>>>>> businesses are "married" to this crap) and Microsoft's has leverage
>>>>>> with the computer manufacturers. Monopolies have a lot of inertia
>>>>>> that's hard to overcome. But you'll note that, for development
>>>>>> purposes, Microsoft is now including Linux in Windows. There's a
>>>>>> reason for that. And, as software moves to the "rental" phase and more
>>>>>> and more of the applications move to the "Cloud", there will be less
>>>>>> and less necessity to use Windows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> No purchasing manager was ever fired for specifying Microsoft.
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't bet on it.
>>>
>>> Leaving out the cloud I have to agree. Microsoft and the availability of
>>> Microsoft Certified Whatevers makes pointy headed bosses sleep better at
>>> night.
>>
>> It's the same argument as the one that was made as to why IBM won over
>> superior platforms in the 1980s. At the very least, anyone who suggests
>> Microsoft can't be reprimanded because the boss knows that they will be
>> able to find a ton of people who can use the well-known software as well
>> as a ton of techs who can troubleshoot it. Even if they can't afford
>> that staff, there is lots of help online for most problems if they
>> search for it. That doesn't mean that the operating system is
>> necessarily better; it simply means that businesses take a lot less risk
>> in choosing one over the other.
>>
>> I've always mentioned that I believe that in fields like education and
>> finance, everyone would be better off using open-source though. For
>> finance, you need a robust kernel and a filesystem which resists bit-rot
>> to keep those records. There shouldn't be a need to back up data daily
>> for fear that your records will corrupt (even though it is still clearly
>> smart to do so). Similarly, in education, if the public system desires
>> removing all financial barriers to learning, doesn't it make sense to
>> run an operating system which can be deployed to even the most
>> affordable hardware at no performance penalty and prioritize the use of
>> software which can be downloaded at no charge? I've actually asked this
>> many times in the past and the answer has always been that maintaining
>> the Linux servers is more costly and time-consuming to the technicians.
>> I imagine that it is because the slightest change in configuration
>> causes chaos across the board.
> 
> First off, what happened to all those people who kept suggesting IBM was a
> "no brainer" when it sank?

By the time IBM sank, all of the standards they have introduced except 
for PS/2 (for mice and keyboards) had already been abandoned. 
Third-parties were already making better PCs than IBM was so suggesting 
that company was no longer necessary. However, even if people chose to 
suggest IBM anyway, they would have gotten ThinkPads which were 
spectacular computers. Only the IBM hard disks became notoriously awful 
by the end.

> Second, do you really think important databases run on MicroSlop? Windows
> might be the front-end, but I'm willing to bet that most corporations run
> SQL under Linux servers for their important records. You've heard of Oracle,
> right? (Not endorsing them, but they're the world's largest database
> company, I believe. They have their own "flavor" of Red Hat.)

I'm becoming increasingly aware of how ubiquitous Linux is. Clearly, it 
has made inroads in areas where failure is not an option. I'm not 
against using it again, especially if sticking to Windows introduces new 
issues like the fTPM stuttering I mentioned before (I don't think Linux 
necessarily resolves this issue as much as offers ways to circumvent it 
which are not available to Windows users).

-- 
CrudeSausage

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For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-21 19:02 +0000
  Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-21 14:42 -0500
    Re: For The Gamers Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-21 20:43 +0000
      Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2024-12-21 22:09 +0000
        Re: For The Gamers Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2024-12-21 22:20 +0000
          Re: For The Gamers Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 17:25 -0500
            Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2024-12-22 10:05 +0000
          Re: For The Gamers DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-21 23:08 -0500
      Re: For The Gamers Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 19:20 -0600
      Re: For The Gamers DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-21 22:45 -0500
      Re: For The Gamers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-22 08:30 -0500
      Re: For The Gamers DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-07 22:05 -0500
        Re: For The Gamers Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:21 -0500
        Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 09:12 -0500
          Re: For The Gamers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-09 07:17 -0600
            Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 10:39 -0500
              Re: For The Gamers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-11 08:15 -0600
                Re: For The Gamers Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2025-01-11 18:34 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-11 19:31 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2025-01-11 19:51 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-11 21:35 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-11 17:47 -0600
                Re: For The Gamers pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-01-12 01:16 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 01:36 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-12 11:12 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 20:39 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-11 19:53 -0600
                Re: For The Gamers Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-12 13:35 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-12 15:58 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> - 2025-01-12 16:21 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-01-12 09:08 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-12 09:48 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-12 16:09 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-11 16:44 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 13:40 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-11 16:50 -0600
                Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 17:58 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 01:51 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-12 06:31 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 21:04 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-12 07:35 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-12 13:05 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-12 09:43 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-01-12 16:01 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-12 11:36 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-12 20:32 +0000
    Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 22:36 +0000
      Re: For The Gamers snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2024-12-21 22:48 +0000
        Re: For The Gamers Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 18:05 -0500
        Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-22 05:25 +0000
          Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-22 06:06 +0000
            Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 07:39 -0500
              Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:30 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-23 08:37 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 09:17 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 11:55 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 09:44 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-24 19:14 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-25 06:53 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 17:35 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 17:54 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 02:42 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 22:18 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 07:15 +0000
      Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-21 18:18 -0500
        Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-22 05:30 +0000
          Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-22 06:03 +0000
            Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-22 08:33 +0000
              Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-22 09:39 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:00 +0000
          Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 07:22 -0500
            Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:21 +0000
              Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 11:51 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 09:39 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-24 19:00 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 17:51 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 02:41 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 22:05 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 07:14 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-28 08:28 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 07:45 +0000
                Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-29 07:27 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 21:23 +0000
    Re: For The Gamers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-21 18:50 -0600
      Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 07:14 -0500
        Re: For The Gamers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-22 10:40 -0600
          Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 11:54 -0500
            Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:12 +0000
          Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:11 +0000
            Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 11:43 -0500
        Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:10 +0000
          Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 11:42 -0500
        Re: For The Gamers -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-23 06:29 -0500
          Re: For The Gamers Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-23 07:51 -0500
            Re: For The Gamers -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2024-12-23 19:18 -0500
  Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 22:31 +0000
  Re: For The Gamers vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2024-12-21 23:35 +0000
    Re: For The Gamers chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2024-12-21 18:52 -0600
    Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2024-12-22 10:09 +0000
      Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-22 07:42 -0500
        Re: For The Gamers Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2024-12-22 12:57 +0000
        Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 06:04 +0000
          Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-23 08:28 +0000
            Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 12:01 -0500
          Re: For The Gamers CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2024-12-23 11:38 -0500
            Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-24 09:31 +0000
              Re: For The Gamers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-24 19:04 +0000
              Re: For The Gamers Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-27 17:47 -0500
                Re: For The Gamers RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-28 02:27 +0000

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