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Re: What is your experience with Samsung "RAM Plus" virtual memory expansion?

From Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: What is your experience with Samsung "RAM Plus" virtual memory expansion?
Date 2024-12-07 16:18 +0000
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Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
> Frank Slootweg wrote:
> 
> >    My/the point is that not all appscan be designed that way. It might
> > be that if they can be designed that way, they must be designed that
> > way. But an app developer can not be required to do the impossible.
> > 
> >    Note that I specifically mentioned external data or/and state. If an
> > app is killed, external data or/and state might/will be lost and the app
> > cannot recover when restarted. Examples of such apps are apps which
> > depend on data from (internal or external sensors or other data
> > sources).
> 
> They can save the most recent sensor values as part of their state, so 
> if they get killed, they can use the saved value rather than re-reading 
> the value from the sensor.

  Yes, but they will miss the sensor data that was generated between the
time the app was killed and when it was restarted. Think tracking/
tracing apps, activity trackers - including sleep tracking -, etc., etc..
For example the developer of Sleep as Android developed the
DontKillMyApp app [1]. Need I say more!?

  Like I said, if paging/swapping wasn't needed, computers wouldn't have
those functionalities, because one 'disk'-access (load-only) is faster
than two (page/swap out and back in).

  I'm sure there are many, many other applications where killing
processes just isn't an option. Actually the exact opposite, I think
there are few applications where killing the process(es) *is* acceptable
behaviour.

[1] 'DontKillMyApp: Make apps work'
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.urbandroid.dontkillmyapp>
Referenced from 'Tracking crashes, stops suddenly' on
<https://sleep.urbandroid.org/docs/sleep/automatic_sleep_tracking.html#after-fall-asleep>

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What is your experience with Samsung "RAM Plus" virtual memory expansion? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-05 06:08 +0000
  Re: What is your experience with Samsung "RAM Plus" virtual memory expansion? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-12-05 10:26 +0000
    Re: What is your experience with Samsung "RAM Plus" virtual memory expansion? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-12-05 22:57 +0100
  Re: What is your experience with Samsung "RAM Plus" virtual memory expansion? "Edward.C" <ec@spam.invalid> - 2024-12-06 13:40 +0800
  Re: What is your experience with Samsung "RAM Plus" virtual memory expansion? "Edward.C" <ec@spam.invalid> - 2024-12-06 15:04 +0800
    Re: What is your experience with Samsung "RAM Plus" virtual memory expansion? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-12-06 08:05 +0000
      Re: What is your experience with Samsung "RAM Plus" virtual memory expansion? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-12-06 09:55 +0100
      Re: What is your experience with Samsung "RAM Plus" virtual memory expansion? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-06 11:51 +0000
        Re: What is your experience with Samsung "RAM Plus" virtual memory expansion? "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2024-12-06 14:02 +0100
          Re: What is your experience with Samsung "RAM Plus" virtual memory expansion? Andrew <andys@nospam.com> - 2024-12-06 21:21 +0000
        Re: What is your experience with Samsung "RAM Plus" virtual memory expansion? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-12-07 13:51 +0100
          Re: What is your experience with Samsung "RAM Plus" virtual memory expansion? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-07 13:14 +0000
            Re: What is your experience with Samsung "RAM Plus" virtual memory expansion? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-12-07 14:05 +0000
              Re: What is your experience with Samsung "RAM Plus" virtual memory expansion? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2024-12-07 16:18 +0000
                Re: What is your experience with Samsung "RAM Plus" virtual memory expansion? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-12-09 00:50 +0100
            Re: What is your experience with Samsung "RAM Plus" virtual memory expansion? Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-12-09 00:46 +0100
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