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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.hardware, alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt |
| Subject | Re: Computer turns on and then just dies |
| Date | 2024-11-29 15:01 -0500 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <vid6i1$17nr4$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On Fri, 11/29/2024 11:11 AM, s|b wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 13:49:18 +0100, s|b wrote:
>
>> Would this one do? It's only 42 euro.
>>
>> Thermaltake Tr2 S 500W
>
> Ugh. I just saw it has 4 SATA connectors, but it's all on one cable.
> Don't want that.
>
> <https://www.thermaltake.com/tr2-s-500w-dc-to-dc-version.html>
>
I like to use adapters anyway :-)
It's the flexibility of the cable I like. The adapter uses
different wire than the "less flexible" PSU.
Some of the "beauty queens" who hide all the wiring inside the
computer case, and tape the wire to the metal with a ton of
pieces of tape (out of sight), I don't bother doing things
like that. The wire in mine just hangs down. I restrain wires
to prevent them from falling into fans. To me, a computer
case, it's an appliance, it's not a LED lit aquarium :-)
You can use the SATA loom to do two drives if you wish.
Then use the Molex loom and a single Molex-to-two-SATA
for the other two drives.
Technically, the PSU I'm currently using, has all the connectors
I need, but because the wire won't bend nicely for the work,
I am using two adapters, just to make plugging and unplugging
two drives easier (the boot drive, the drive I'm "working on"
as a technician machine). My optical drive is in an enclosure
and runs off a wall wart, and I can move that to any machine not
having an optical drive.
*******
On the ThermalTake URL, you can snip them this short and then
you don't need a link shortener :-)
https://www.amazon.com.be/-/nl/Thermaltake-Tr2-500W-Pc-Voeding-Zwart/dp/B016WFYCD2
This is the missing picture from the Amazon page. The +5V is a little weak,
but not likely to be a total disaster. I like then to cover 20A on the lower
rails. To get the efficiency rating, the supplies would be double-forward-conversion
(the 12V main circuit, powers a small plugin card that makes the 3.3V and 5V supplies).
That's different to how the Pavouk picture makes the electricity.
https://c1.neweggimages.com/productimage/nb1280/BRESD23091015WV52E6.jpg
Cabling picture is on the Thermaltake website.
https://www.thermaltake.com/pub/media/wysiwyg/key3/db/products/psu/Smart500W/pic3.jpg
Peripheral 4 pin three connectors <=== Molex, use a single Molex to two SATA adapter if you want
SATA 15 pin six connectors
The SATA in the picture is mislabeled as "4 pin" when the connector is a 15p
and the cabling will be the compression fit ribbon-style connectors.
the supply has plenty of 12V current, and the description isn't likely
to be entirely accurate. While the supply has a 35A transformer, the
Molex loom likely has a 20A overcurrent detection, and the whole
35A would not flow down the hard drive cable :-) That's for safety
during short circuits.
We had an incident in the lab, with a power supply with a 100A output,
and it neglected to have that safety feature. Pretty impressive. I'm surprised
my co-worker was not injured (like, a burned retina). His head was inside
some machinery, when the short happened :-/ Having current limiters on looms
is a good idea.
Paul
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Re: Computer turns on and then just dies Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-11-24 15:21 -0500
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Re: Computer turns on and then just dies Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-11-25 17:33 -0500
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-11-26 18:44 +0100
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-11-26 16:31 -0600
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Re: Computer turns on and then just dies "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-11-27 16:01 +0100
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-11-27 10:19 -0500
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-11-23 14:28 -0600
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-11-24 17:10 +0100
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-11-24 15:27 -0500
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-11-25 15:08 +0100
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-11-25 14:38 +0100
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-11-26 16:37 -0600
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-11-27 16:05 +0100
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-11-24 16:51 +0100
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-11-24 16:03 -0500
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-11-25 15:03 +0100
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-11-25 18:09 -0500
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Re: Computer turns on and then just dies "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-11-27 15:45 +0100
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-11-28 17:17 +0100
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-11-28 11:07 -0600
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-11-28 19:30 -0500
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-11-28 19:34 -0600
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-11-29 05:21 -0500
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-11-29 11:35 -0600
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-11-29 13:49 +0100
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-11-29 17:11 +0100
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-11-29 15:01 -0500
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-11-29 21:46 -0600
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-11-30 12:21 +0100
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-11-30 09:15 -0600
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-11-30 17:16 +0100
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-11-30 17:40 -0500
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-12-02 11:43 +0100
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-02 14:15 -0600
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-12-02 21:19 +0100
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-01 08:26 -0600
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-01 13:23 -0500
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-12-02 11:40 +0100
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-02 14:06 -0600
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-12-02 21:30 +0100
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-11-30 11:31 -0500
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-11-30 12:22 -0600
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-11-29 12:46 +0100
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-12-04 17:41 +0100
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-04 14:14 -0600
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-04 18:28 -0500
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-05 09:30 -0600
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-05 11:11 -0500
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-12-06 17:43 +0100
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-12-06 17:45 +0100
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-06 16:46 -0600
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-12-07 14:11 +0100
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-07 09:46 -0600
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-12-07 17:02 +0100
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2024-12-07 11:40 -0600
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-12-09 15:54 +0100
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-12-06 20:43 -0500
Re: Computer turns on and then just dies "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2024-12-07 15:27 +0100
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