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Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.

From	Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.user
Subject	Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system.
Date	2018-05-26 04:10 +0200
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On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 2:17 PM, Pétùr <peturvilj@gmail.com> wrote:

>    <snip>
>
> >        dist-upgrade
> >            dist-upgrade in addition to performing the function of
> upgrade, also intelligently
> >            handles changing dependencies with new versions of packages;
> apt-get has a "smart"
> >            conflict resolution system, and it will attempt to upgrade
> the most important packages
> >            at the expense of less important ones if necessary. The
> dist-upgrade command may
> >            therefore remove some packages. The /etc/apt/sources.list
> file contains a list of
> >            locations from which to retrieve desired package files. See
> also apt_preferences(5)
> >            for a mechanism for overriding the general settings for
> individual packages.
>
> Warning:  Ubuntu ("close enough" to Debian to confuse me, multiple years)
regularly requires dist-upgrade to do their frequent Kernel Upgrades,
because they change Version Numbers on, among other things, the vmlinuz
file.  So, when I do "apt-get upgrade" on the remaining Ubuntu Laptop, I
regularly see things like,

>> root@EyeBlinkLenovo:~# apt-get -d upgrade
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree
>> Reading state information... Done
>> Calculating upgrade... Done
>> The following packages have been kept back:
>>   linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
linux-signed-generic linux-signed-image-generic linux-tools-generic
>> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.

But then, "apt-get dist-upgrade" gets me "new packages", where only a
"sub-version" is different.  For example, when the "smoke clears" from the
dist-upgrade, my "vmlinuz", in my /boot directory consists of (among other
things)

>> vmlinuz-4.4.0-124-generic
>> vmlinuz-4.4.0-127-generic

Note that these are different Packages.

Now I know, that Ubuntu is aimed, at a less technical audience, but this
threw me for a loop (and came to the foreground, when I didn't allocate a
large enough /boot partition.  I had to learn "apt-get autoremove" in a
HURRY!!!  Oh well.  I;m sure each of you have your own Administration War
Stories).

But this "Feature Creep" on the Linux Kernel, is why I am here now,
"upgrading" my Ubuntu Server Systems to Debian 9.4.  Once again, Go Debian!)

So, once again, watch out for "dist-upgrade", if there's any "hint" of
Ubuntu (i.e.   Mint, Elementary OS, and many others out there).

Word to the Wise.

Kenneth Parker

Thread

Update on my update problem with gnome system. Matthew Dyer <ilovecountrymusic483@gmail.com> - 2018-05-19 16:40 +0200
  Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-05-19 20:30 +0200
    Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. Hans <hans.ullrich@loop.de> - 2018-05-19 21:10 +0200
      Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. Pétùr <peturvilj@gmail.com> - 2018-05-25 20:20 +0200
        Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2018-05-25 21:40 +0200
          Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. Pétùr <peturvilj@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 20:10 +0200
            Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. Abdullah Ramazanoğlu <ar018@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-26 20:40 +0200
              Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-05-29 15:20 +0200
                Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. Abdullah Ramazanoğlu <ar018@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-29 17:40 +0200
                Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-05-29 20:20 +0200
                Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. Abdullah Ramazanoğlu <ar018@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-29 21:00 +0200
                Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-05-29 21:40 +0200
                Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. John Cunningham <djohngo@gmail.com> - 2018-05-29 22:00 +0200
                Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-05-29 23:40 +0200
                Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-05-30 06:20 +0200
                Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. John Cunningham <djohngo@gmail.com> - 2018-05-30 16:50 +0200
                Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-05-30 20:20 +0200
                Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. Curt <curty@free.fr> - 2018-05-30 20:40 +0200
                Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. Abdullah Ramazanoğlu <ar018@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-29 23:40 +0200
                Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-05-30 06:40 +0200
                Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-05-30 20:00 +0200
                Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. Dan Norton <dnorton@mindspring.com> - 2018-05-30 20:50 +0200
                Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-05-30 09:00 +0200
                Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-05-30 19:50 +0200
            Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. Cindy-Sue Causey <butterflybytes@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 21:50 +0200
              Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-05-26 22:50 +0200
            Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. rhkramer@gmail.com - 2018-05-31 01:10 +0200
        Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2018-05-26 04:10 +0200
          Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2018-06-04 02:10 +0200
            Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. David Wright <deblis@lionunicorn.co.uk> - 2018-06-05 05:30 +0200
              Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 10:40 +0200
  Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. Abdullah Ramazanoğlu <ar018@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-19 20:30 +0200
    Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. Abdullah Ramazanoğlu <ar018@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-20 02:30 +0200
  Re: Update on my update problem with gnome system. songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2018-05-20 00:50 +0200

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