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Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of Debian 9.4

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On 04/21/18 14:24, Kenneth Parker wrote:
> ... wireless.kernel.org to download Firmware for this B43 Device.

My decommissioned Dell Inspiron E1505 required the same firmware.  I 
bought a replacement WiFi card in the hopes it would be better supported 
by GNU/Linux and *BSD, but can't remember if that idea worked...


> But how do I download something, when I have no Internet, due to this
> "Non-Free Chipset"?

You need another device that can access the Internet, download the file, 
and put it onto a USB flash drive in the 'firmware' directory:

https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual

https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s04.html.en


> In other words, a long-term Linux Geek, all the way back to Debian 2.1
> (Command Line Only, back in 2000) is stymied with something that, back then
> could easily have been fixed, by copying files from a different System, via
> Floppy Disks!   Oh well...

Vote with your dollars -- buy FOSS-friendly hardware.


> One more thing:  Because of some changes, from 8 to 9, I am being asked to
> do Network Administration, with both Hands behind my Back:  Debian CD1
> does  *NOT*  install the ifconfig command, which I might have been able to
> use, to troubleshoot, even *FINDING* the WiFi Adapter.  Ouch!

AFAIK ifconfig was superseded by some component of systemd.


If enough people install net-tools and popularity-contest, ifconfig(8) 
will make it to CD 1.


Alternatively, try Devuan:

https://devuan.org/


David

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Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of Debian 9.4 Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2018-04-21 23:30 +0200
  Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of  Debian 9.4 Abdullah Ramazanoglu <ar018@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-21 23:50 +0200
  Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of Debian 9.4 Rick Thomas <rbthomas@pobox.com> - 2018-04-22 00:00 +0200
    Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of  Debian 9.4 Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 00:10 +0200
      Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of  Debian 9.4 Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-04-22 00:40 +0200
  Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of  Debian 9.4 David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-04-22 00:20 +0200
    Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of  Debian 9.4 Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-04-22 00:40 +0200
      Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of  Debian 9.4 Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 02:10 +0200
        Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of  Debian 9.4 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-04-22 20:30 +0200
    Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of  Debian 9.4 Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 00:50 +0200
    Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of  Debian 9.4 <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-04-22 07:30 +0200
      Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of  Debian 9.4 David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-04-22 20:00 +0200
        Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of  Debian 9.4 <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-04-22 20:10 +0200
          Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of  Debian 9.4 David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-04-22 20:50 +0200
            Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of  Debian 9.4 Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-04-23 15:10 +0200
              Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of  Debian 9.4 David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-04-24 04:50 +0200
        Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of Debian 9.4 Eike Lantzsch <zp6cge@gmx.net> - 2018-04-22 20:40 +0200

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