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Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of Debian 9.4

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On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 11:47:48AM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
> Proving, disproving, and/or improving the hypothesis would require
> researching ifconfig(8), systemd(1), and the reasons why the former was
> dropped from the default installation when the latter was introduced into
> Debian (Jesse?).

Your timeline is wrong.  Your "hypothesis" is also wrong.

The net-tools package was installed by default in jessie and earlier.
It only became non-default in stretch.

The iproute2 package, which supersedes net-tools, has been installed by
default since squeeze.

The systemd package was first available as a "technology preview" in
wheezy, and became the default init system in jessie.

systemd has its own way of managing network interfaces (systemd-networkd),
which may be used as an alternative to /etc/network/interfaces and/or
NetworkManager.  However, this is not done by default in Debian.  Debian
still uses /etc/network/interfaces by default, plus NetworkManager
if you install certain Desktop Environments.  If you want to use
systemd-networkd, you have to configure it yourself.

systemd-networkd has absolutely nothing to do with iproute2 superseding
net-tools.

For more details on iproute2 superseding net-tools, see
<https://lwn.net/Articles/710533/>.

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  Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of Debian 9.4 Rick Thomas <rbthomas@pobox.com> - 2018-04-22 00:00 +0200
    Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of  Debian 9.4 Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 00:10 +0200
      Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of  Debian 9.4 Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-04-22 00:40 +0200
  Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of  Debian 9.4 David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-04-22 00:20 +0200
    Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of  Debian 9.4 Dan Ritter <dsr@randomstring.org> - 2018-04-22 00:40 +0200
      Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of  Debian 9.4 Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 02:10 +0200
        Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of  Debian 9.4 Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> - 2018-04-22 20:30 +0200
    Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of  Debian 9.4 Kenneth Parker <sea7kenp@gmail.com> - 2018-04-22 00:50 +0200
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      Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of  Debian 9.4 David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-04-22 20:00 +0200
        Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of  Debian 9.4 <tomas@tuxteam.de> - 2018-04-22 20:10 +0200
          Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of  Debian 9.4 David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-04-22 20:50 +0200
            Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of  Debian 9.4 Greg Wooledge <wooledg@eeg.ccf.org> - 2018-04-23 15:10 +0200
              Re: Network-related Chicken and Egg Issue, attempting Install of  Debian 9.4 David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com> - 2018-04-24 04:50 +0200
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