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Re: 3 new proglems, probably in Win 11 only.

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In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Thu, 27 Feb 2025 13:57:07 -0700,
...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

>micky wrote on 2/25/2025 4:20 PM:
>> In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sun, 23 Feb 2025 12:10:03 -0700,
>> ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Right click the installer .exe or.msi file, select properties, then
>>> uncheck the item that indicates 'Unblock'
>> 
>> That probably would have worked.  I didn't know Blocked files existed
>> until Paul told me (even though I've downloaded install files from
>> Geeks, etc. but maybe that was before Blocked files were implemented in
>> win10.)
>   Blocked files and the executable file Properties 'Unblock' 
>option/feature has been present, at least, for 23 yrs. - Windows XP.

I never came across this problem before, and I've installed Eudora, for
one, in XP, Vista, and win10, with no problem, the very same file
(copied over) that would not install in win11.  I've installed programs
I got from Geek-whatever and other 3rd party sites, and even in win11,
Everything, Firefox, and Powerdesk.  
>>>
>>> Did you manually create(on Win11 now or prior before updating to Win11
>>>from an earlier os in the past or copy from somewher else(other device, 
>>> other Windows) the C:\Programs folder???
>> 
>> Manually created Programs in Win11, just before I copied Forte Agent and
>> Eudora program files to it from win10.  Since then I've installed other
>> programs to that directory, if the installer lets me choose.
>> 
>> To spoil the ending, I made the new directory using DOS. I wasted too
>> much time trying other thigns.
>> 
>>> C:\Programs is not a main system folder for programs in Win11.
>>>   - The three folders in the root directory are Program Files, Program
>>> Files, Program Files (x86)
>> 
>> That's what I thought.
>  Small typo on my part. Program Files, Program Files (x86), and 
>***ProgramData***
>> 
>> 
>> I've temporarily given up on the new subdirectory for Programs (It was
>> only to hold Wordpad files (in case an update to win11 erased my
>> Wordpad, which I have read will happen) and Eudora files (that are a
>> trifle better than what I have, and they seem so far away in the
>> Downloads file.)
>
>If you've imaged yor drive before Win11 24H2 on Win11 23H2 or Win10(as 
>has been suggested by many others in this group on topics related to 
>imaging, Macrium, Acronis, and other imaging/backup programs) then 
>restoring WordPad(which W11 24H2 does remove) is restorable.

Good.  Yes, I have copies. 

>  => requires a small amount of effort but achievable. A variety of 
>methods are available from sources that have proven sucessful results.
>e.g.
> 
><https://www.ghacks.net/2024/10/07/how-to-restore-the-wordpad-text-editor-in-windows-11/>
>
> 
><https://www.pcworld.com/article/2376881/how-to-get-wordpad-back-windows-11-24h2.html>

Great.  But I still don't undestand why MS dropped it.  They also one
time dropped the simple version of Solitaire, sol.exe, but that was
simple to copy from a previous computer. 

>Optionally, one could copy the three necessary files from a pre 24H2 
>imge(same files/folders noted in the above articles) to the same folder 
>locations present in Win11 23H2 and earlier o/s(those folders remain in 
>24H2, but not the files) but doing so requires more technical 
>expertise(taking ownership, permissions, and returning ownership to the 
>default Win11 design(System, TrustedInstaller)

You're making my head spin. 

>  - i.e. imo, something that should only be done, after creating a 24H2 
>image backup and full and complete knowledge of what/how to do so and 
>return the impacted permissions/ownership to design intent.
>  => Based on your past history of questions and results, I would not 
>recommend you pursue this path.

I'm not nearly as weak on this stuff as people here seem to imagine, but
what you just described IS something I don't want to try. 

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3 new proglems, probably in Win 11 only.  micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-23 11:27 -0500
  Re: 3 new proglems, probably in Win 11 only. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-02-23 13:07 -0500
    Re: 3 new proglems, probably in Win 11 only. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-23 13:42 -0500
  Re: 3 new proglems, probably in Win 11 only. knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-02-23 13:39 -0500
    Re: 3 new proglems, probably in Win 11 only. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-25 18:15 -0500
  Re: 3 new proglems, probably in Win 11 only. ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-23 12:10 -0700
    Re: 3 new proglems, probably in Win 11 only. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-02-25 18:20 -0500
      Re: 3 new proglems, probably in Win 11 only. ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-02-27 13:57 -0700
        Re: 3 new proglems, probably in Win 11 only. John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2025-02-28 10:05 +0000
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        Re: 3 new proglems, probably in Win 11 only. micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2025-03-10 10:27 -0400

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