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| From | olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.theory |
| Subject | Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? |
| Date | 2024-07-04 07:39 -0500 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <v6655d$2oun1$2@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
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On 7/4/2024 1:29 AM, Mikko wrote:
> On 2024-07-03 13:13:59 +0000, olcott said:
>
>> On 7/3/2024 2:42 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> On 2024-07-03 01:18:52 +0000, olcott said:
>>>
>>>> On 7/2/2024 8:07 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>> On 7/2/24 7:03 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/2/2024 5:44 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/2/24 3:46 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/2/2024 2:17 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Op 02.jul.2024 om 21:00 schreef olcott:
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/2/2024 1:42 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Op 02.jul.2024 om 14:22 schreef olcott:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/2/2024 3:22 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Op 02.jul.2024 om 03:25 schreef olcott:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> typedef void (*ptr)();
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> int HHH(ptr P);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> void Infinite_Loop()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HERE: goto HERE;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> void Infinite_Recursion()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Infinite_Recursion();
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> void DDD()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HHH(DDD);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> int main()
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HHH(Infinite_Loop);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HHH(Infinite_Recursion);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HHH(DDD);
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every C programmer that knows what an x86 emulator is knows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that when HHH emulates the machine language of Infinite_Loop,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Infinite_Recursion, and DDD that it must abort these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emulations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so that itself can terminate normally.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Whether or not it *must* abort is not very relevant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This <is> the problem that I am willing to discuss.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am unwilling to discuss any other problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>> This does meet the Sipser approved criteria.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words
>>>>>>>>>>>> 10/13/2022>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its
>>>>>>>>>>>> input D
>>>>>>>>>>>> until H correctly determines that its simulated D would
>>>>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>>>>> stop running unless aborted then
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report
>>>>>>>>>>>> that D
>>>>>>>>>>>> specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations.
>>>>>>>>>>>> </MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words
>>>>>>>>>>>> 10/13/2022>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Repeating the same thing that has already been proved to be
>>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant does not bring the discussion any further.
>>>>>>>>>>> Sipser is not relevant, because that is about a correct
>>>>>>>>>>> simulation. Your simulation is not correct.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you disagree with this you are either dishonest
>>>>>>>>>> or clueless I no longer care which one.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _DDD()
>>>>>>>>>> [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping
>>>>>>>>>> [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping
>>>>>>>>>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD
>>>>>>>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
>>>>>>>>>> [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04
>>>>>>>>>> [00002182] 5d pop ebp
>>>>>>>>>> [00002183] c3 ret
>>>>>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> DDD is correctly emulated by HHH which calls an
>>>>>>>>>> emulated HHH(DDD) to repeat the process until aborted.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> HHH repeats the process twice and aborts too soon.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are freaking thinking too damn narrow minded.
>>>>>>>> DDD is correctly emulated by any HHH that can exist
>>>>>>>> which calls this emulated HHH(DDD) to repeat the process
>>>>>>>> until aborted (which may be never).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Only if your definiton of "Correct" includes things that are not
>>>>>>> correct.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your problem is you just assume things to exist that don't,
>>>>>>> because you don't understand what Truth actually means.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So, where is that Diagonalization proof you said you had to show
>>>>> Godel wrong?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or are you just admitting you LIED about that?
>>>>>
>>>>>> void DDD()
>>>>>> {
>>>>>> HHH(DDD);
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> int main()
>>>>>> {
>>>>>> HHH(DDD);
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
>>>>>> If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D
>>>>>> until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never
>>>>>> stop running unless aborted then
>>>>>>
>>>>>> H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D
>>>>>> specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations.
>>>>>> </MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words
>>>>>> 10/13/2022>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Professor Sipser would agree that HHH/DDD meets the above criteria*
>>>>>>
>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your HHH that returns an answer does NOT "Correctly Simulate" its
>>>>> input by the definition of producing the exact results of executing
>>>>> the machine represented by it,
>>>>
>>>> I can see what you fail to understand. Professor Sipser would
>>>> not make this same mistake.
>>>>
>>>> Professor Sipser probably does understand the x86 language.
>>>
>>> What makes you think so? How can you justify "probably" instead of, say,
>>> "pssobly"?
>>>
>>> The following contains nothing relevant:
>>>
>>>> Shared-memory implementation of the Karp-Sipser
>>>> kernelization process
>>>> https://inria.hal.science/hal-03404798/file/hipc2021.pdf
>>>
>>>
>>
>> If you make sure to not pay attention than you you
>> won't find anything relevant. I searched for ["sipser" "x86"]
>
> Finding that you present claims without support is relevant enough for me.
>
Knowledge of the x86 language is 100% complete support.
--
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
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Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-01 21:51 -0400
Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-01 21:09 -0500
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Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Richard seems to be willfully ignorant "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-03 10:33 +0200
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Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Richard seems to be willfully ignorant "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-03 17:44 +0200
Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Richard seems to be willfully ignorant olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-03 10:53 -0500
Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Richard seems to be willfully ignorant "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-03 18:05 +0200
Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Richard seems to be willfully ignorant olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-03 11:11 -0500
Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Richard seems to be willfully ignorant "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-03 20:04 +0200
Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Richard seems to be willfully ignorant olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-03 11:14 -0500
Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Richard seems to be willfully ignorant "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-03 20:08 +0200
Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Olcott seems to be willfully ignorant Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-03 19:18 -0400
Re: olcott seems to be willfully ignorant joes <noreply@example.org> - 2024-07-03 04:05 +0000
Re: olcott seems to be willfully ignorant olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-02 23:14 -0500
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Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-04 11:39 -0500
Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-04 12:57 -0400
Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-04 12:33 -0500
Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-04 13:47 -0400
Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-07-05 10:32 +0300
Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-05 07:15 -0500
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Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-04 11:24 -0400
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Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Liar ??? Maybe... "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl> - 2024-07-04 21:32 +0200
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Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Can ADD be this severe? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-07-04 09:42 +0300
Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Can ADD be this severe? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-04 07:41 -0500
Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Can ADD be this severe? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-04 11:24 -0400
Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Can ADD be this severe? Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> - 2024-07-05 10:27 +0300
Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Can ADD be this severe? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-05 07:10 -0500
Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Can ADD be this severe? Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> - 2024-07-05 11:15 -0400
Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? joes <noreply@example.org> - 2024-07-04 10:13 +0000
Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> - 2024-07-04 07:45 -0500
Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? joes <noreply@example.org> - 2024-07-02 11:32 +0000
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Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? joes <noreply@example.org> - 2024-07-02 14:48 +0000
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