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Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages

From Andrew <andrew@spam.net>
Newsgroups misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.mobile.android
Subject Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages
Date 2024-06-13 18:06 +0000
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Chris wrote on Thu, 13 Jun 2024 08:35:36 -0000 (UTC) :

> I mean, SMS is explicitly asynchronous - there's no guarantee a text will
> be delivered at any time - so the time you send something is meaningless.
> Especially with kids. 

While technically that's true, how many times have you sent an SMS/MMS
message and had it NOT arrive within seconds of you sending it?

But, in reality, the problem with Apple's scheduled messaging
implementation is far worse than just the inherent delay in SMS/MMS because
it doesn't apparently even *work* outside the walled garden anyway.

At least that's what this cite from the WSJ rather clearly says:
 <https://www.wsj.com/tech/personal-tech/ios-18-ipados-18-iphone-apple-features-fall-2024-70d28f09>
  "*This only works with iMessage, so only with fellow Apple users*."

>> Ooops. Wrong link. Here's the correct link to the example I just provided.
>>  <https://i.postimg.cc/v86wXwtJ/scheduledmessage.jpg>
> 
> Does it still work if the phone is off/has no signal/in airplane mode?

Completely outside the topic of "scheduled messages", I hike often in
backcountry that has low cellular service where my experience is that any
queued up SMS messages get sent en masse when my phone enters a cellular
service area.

Back on the topic of scheduled messages though, based on the WSJ article
above saying it doesn't actually work in the real world (surprise!), I
suspect Apple isn't using the SMS/MMS system to send those scheduled
messages (since the walled garden isn't even close to the real world).

Given logging into Apple's walled garden is apparently required for
scheduled messages to work, we can't answer your question until we find out
WHERE the Apple scheduled messages are scheduled and eventually sent from.

  *After logging into Apple's walled garden servers...*
  *Are the scheduled messages kept on and sent from Apple's servers?*

I don't know. 

But I doubt any of the Apple religious zealots will know either, as they
only know what Apple has advertised in glossy marketing for herd animals.

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Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-11 03:42 +0000
  Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-06-11 16:54 +0000
    Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-11 20:30 +0000
      Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-06-11 22:17 +0000
        Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-12 04:31 +0000
          Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-12 06:26 +0100
            Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-12 06:12 +0000
              Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-12 06:19 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 08:35 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-13 18:06 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 20:25 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-13 23:02 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-14 22:03 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-14 23:40 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 09:05 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-15 13:25 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 16:12 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-16 17:34 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-16 21:36 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-17 04:16 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-17 10:54 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-06-15 11:56 +0200
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Alan Browne <singularity@blackhole.org> - 2024-06-13 14:27 -0400
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 20:25 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-13 23:20 +0000
            Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-06-12 06:50 +0000
              Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Enrico Papaloma <enrico@papaloma.net> - 2024-06-12 18:37 +0200
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-12 17:47 +0100
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-06-12 10:34 -0700
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Alan Browne <singularity@blackhole.org> - 2024-06-12 17:32 -0400
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-06-12 14:46 -0700
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Alan Browne <singularity@blackhole.org> - 2024-06-12 18:06 -0400
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-06-12 15:17 -0700
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Harry S Robins <stanleyrobins@nothere.uk> - 2024-06-12 14:47 -0500
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-06-13 09:24 +1200
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Alan Browne <singularity@blackhole.org> - 2024-06-12 17:34 -0400
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 21:51 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Peter <confused@nospam.net> - 2024-06-13 04:09 +0100
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Alan Browne <singularity@blackhole.org> - 2024-06-13 14:21 -0400
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 20:40 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Alan Browne <singularity@blackhole.org> - 2024-06-13 17:32 -0400
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Alan Browne <singularity@blackhole.org> - 2024-06-12 17:31 -0400
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 21:51 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Alan Browne <singularity@blackhole.org> - 2024-06-12 18:09 -0400
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-14 22:03 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Alan Browne <singularity@blackhole.org> - 2024-06-15 18:04 -0400
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-06-13 13:02 +1200
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-06-13 06:10 +0000
          Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-12 21:41 +0000
            Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-13 01:19 +0000
              Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 07:43 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-13 17:54 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-13 18:52 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-13 19:32 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-14 06:43 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-06-14 16:38 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-14 20:47 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-06-14 21:41 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-14 23:54 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Alan Browne <singularity@blackhole.org> - 2024-06-15 18:01 -0400
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-16 18:05 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-14 22:03 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-15 01:46 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-14 20:45 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-14 21:51 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-15 01:50 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 11:42 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-15 13:43 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-15 14:29 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-16 18:14 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-17 10:49 +0000
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-06-15 10:35 -0700
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Alan Browne <singularity@blackhole.org> - 2024-06-13 14:24 -0400
                Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-14 20:50 +0000
  Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Colour Sergeant Bourne <bourne@rorke.za> - 2024-06-13 08:04 -0400
    Re: Finally iOS 18 will be able to schedule messages Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-06-14 08:54 +1200

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