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Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today

From	Andrew <andrew@spam.net>
Newsgroups	misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.android, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject	Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today
Date	2024-06-05 04:49 +0000
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Andy Burns wrote on Tue, 4 Jun 2024 18:38:50 +0100 :

>> I don't want to be in either Apple's or Google's findmy(device) databases.
>> Any advice there?
> 
> Not so far, but today I installed nRFConnect
> 
> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=no.nordicsemi.android.mcp>

Thanks for that suggested app, where I had used, in the past, Apple's app.
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.apple.trackerdetect>
And I had used AirGuard too, neither of which found anything at my home.
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.seemoo.at_tracking_detection.release>

Yet the Nordic Semiconductor nRF app you suggested found a medical device
which I'm aware of, but which I had not known it had bluetooth capability.
 <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=no.nordicsemi.android.mcp>

That medical device didn't show up under the "SCANNER" tab, nor under the
"ADVERTISER" tab of the nRF app, but in the "BONDED" tab of the nRF app.

Looking up what "Bonded" means in this context, using this Google search
 <https://www.google.com/search?q=what+does+bonded+mean+for+bluetooth+trackers>

The first hit is this page which explains bonding and pairing of bluetooth.
 <https://technotes.kynetics.com/2018/BLE_Pairing_and_bonding/>

Pairing: process where devices exchange the information necessary to
establish an encrypted connection. It involves authenticating the identity
of the two devices to be paired, encrypting the link, and distributing keys
to allow security to be restarted on a reconnection.

Bonding: process where the information from the pairing process is stored
on the devices, so that the pairing process does not have to be repeated
every time the devices reconnect to each other.

> to see how many BLE beacons are floating around, so far fairly quiet 
> here, one FitBit Versa, one unknown HP device, one Apple iBeacon and a 
> Stanley B&D Oven ... none of which are mine.

I live in the boonies so I wouldn't have expected any bluetooth devices to
show up in my first scan at home, but I'll try this at a local store to see
if it picks up any bluetooth trackers I presume some stores have installed.
 
> None of my own devices have shown up.

I was surprised that the nRF app picked up a bluetooth medical device,
which I recognize by the brand name but which I had no idea had bluetooth.

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Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Larry Wolff <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> - 2024-05-31 17:20 -0400
  Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2024-05-31 14:21 -0700
    Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2024-06-01 12:06 +0100
    Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-01 14:18 +0100
      Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-06-02 00:00 -0400
        Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-02 08:34 +0100
          Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-02 19:45 +0000
            Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2024-06-02 16:49 -0400
              Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-02 22:39 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2024-06-02 18:17 -0400
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-03 12:48 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-06-03 12:16 +1200
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-03 07:19 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2024-06-03 12:12 -0400
        Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-06-03 14:20 +0200
  Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2024-05-31 19:27 -0400
    Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2024-06-01 18:39 +1200
      Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-06-02 00:03 -0400
        Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-06-02 07:18 +0200
  Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-06-01 08:05 +0200
    Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-06-02 00:06 -0400
      Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2024-06-02 07:05 +0200
        Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-06-02 11:25 -0400
  Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-01 11:43 +0000
  Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-06-01 08:50 -0400
    Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-01 14:24 +0100
      Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-06-01 10:37 -0400
        Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Larry Wolff <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> - 2024-06-01 11:11 -0400
          Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-06-01 13:43 -0400
            Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-01 19:26 +0100
              Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2024-06-01 20:15 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Peter <confused@nospam.net> - 2024-06-02 00:23 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2024-06-01 22:37 -0700
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-06-02 08:57 -0400
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Peter <confused@nospam.net> - 2024-06-02 19:00 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Alan Browne <singularity@blackhole.org> - 2024-06-02 15:20 -0400
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Peter <confused@nospam.net> - 2024-06-02 20:24 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-06-02 21:44 -0400
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Peter <confused@nospam.net> - 2024-06-03 03:42 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 07:17 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-03 08:34 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-03 09:08 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-03 10:36 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-03 11:01 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-03 09:32 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-03 10:45 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-03 11:10 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 14:52 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-06-03 17:43 +0200
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-03 18:01 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-03 21:03 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-04 08:58 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-04 11:45 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-04 16:11 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-04 16:53 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-06-11 17:19 +0200
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-06-03 09:08 -0400
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-03 20:13 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-04 05:19 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-06-11 17:21 +0200
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2024-06-11 16:47 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2024-06-04 09:55 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-04 11:51 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Arno Welzel <usenet@arnowelzel.de> - 2024-06-03 17:43 +0200
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-03 20:42 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-03 20:53 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-06-03 08:08 -0400
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-03 07:21 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-06-03 08:13 -0400
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Peter <confused@nospam.net> - 2024-06-04 06:20 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-04 07:19 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-06-04 08:09 -0400
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-04 13:31 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-06-04 08:53 -0400
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-04 14:22 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2024-06-04 16:01 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-04 17:14 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-04 16:48 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-04 18:38 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andrew <andrew@spam.net> - 2024-06-05 04:49 +0000
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today bad sector <forgetski@_INVALID.net> - 2024-06-04 16:58 -0400
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-02 22:50 +0100
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2024-06-02 19:41 +0200
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Alan Browne <singularity@blackhole.org> - 2024-06-02 15:18 -0400
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Bill Powell <bill@anarchists.org> - 2024-06-02 21:31 +0200
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> - 2024-06-02 22:28 -0400
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Newyana2 <newyana@invalid.nospam> - 2024-06-01 20:26 -0400
                Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2024-06-02 09:04 +0100
        Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2024-06-01 16:13 +0100
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    Re: Turn your device completely off once a week as per advice from the NSA today Larry Wolff <larrywolff@larrywolff.net> - 2024-06-02 15:36 -0400
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